Topic: Arts Crafts ?? Green glass in Copper Bowl (poss Daum?)

[Andy]

Ive been meaning to get this little bowl on here for ages, its  opaque green glass encased
in Copper, 5 flowery shape holes where the glass squeezes out.
Copper is nicely applied, the rim folded , all tooled to grip the glass tightly.
Not sure how it was made, i presume blown into the copper.
Its about 5 inches wide, 3 1/2 inches tall.
I think the glass has been acid etched . Pontil mark. No makers mark.

Now on ebay , ive found this,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180422388878&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Signed Daum, it has many similarities, glass,textuer and base very similar, could mine be Daum? Its selling well
What thinks the panel??
Cheers
Andy
 

PS forgot to ask, I havent tried cleaning this one yet, should i polish the Copper?
Just been googling the Daum 'majorelle' connection, the glass in mine is fairly boring,
no inclusions or anything, and it all appears to be wrought iron,
so i feel its unlikely, maybe mines a copy from similar period?

[Ivo]

No that is not by Majorelle but there have been contemporaries who used the same technique. On top of that, blowing into a cage has been done in the fifties in Denmark, in the seventies in Spain and in recent years in India, so you may have a tough job ahead figuring this one out.

[johnphilip]

There is a nice piece of Majorelle blown in a cage on ebay , finishes in about three hours , fully signed .

[Andy]

Thanks Ivo,
i get a little voice nagging me on this one, that it may have been made neare the end of
the 20thC rather than the 19th C. ! 
JP, i saw the one on ebay, thats the link in my first post  wakey wakey 
Andy

[glassobsessed]

Similarities with this lot http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,24466.msg136427/topicseen.html#msg136427

John

[pwayne]

Hi Andy, This is one of mine along the same lines as yours, this dates to around 1900 and is a Loetz creta papillon blown into a copper "cobral ware" mount which is stamped into the bottom and also marked regd and patent.
 It might not help in identifying yours but it pushes back the time frame to before the Daum Majorelle pieces and shows a similarity of form, so you never know it might be older than you think.
The green oxidisation (verdigris) build up around the holes looks about the same as on this Loetz piece when it arrived, i washed it of with soapy water and a wooden toothpick as best i could. My advice is don't polish the copper.

[aa]

Thanks Ivo,
i get a little voice nagging me on this one, that it may have been made neare the end of
the 20thC rather than the 19th C. ! 

Probably close!
There are at least two studios who do this sort of work very well, but I don't recognise it as a piece from those.

But there also seems to have been a revival among gift trade companies commissioning in volume from overseas.
For those who have seen the Majorelle piece linked above, I'd be more than a little careful about assuming that any piece you see at a car-boot or similar is old and valuable because it has some kind of metal framework around it. While it may turn out to be a gem, more often than not it is likely to be the reverse. If you are taking a punt for a fiver and like the piece then that's fine, because you may end up keeping it for ever! But there are a lot of bear-traps out there, so watch your pennies!

[Andy]

Thanks everyone,
Wow Wayne 
Slight difference in quality between your piece and mine!
I bought it from a man at a little fair, who bought it from a lady who finds pieces for film sets, who bought it from a car boot, it seems to have trouble finding a permanant home :cry:
It hasnt got much going for it, so i think its going to move on again soon.

Cheers
Andy