Topic: ID help - French antique

[tropdevin]

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I am sure that this paperweight is antique French, but I don't see it as Clichy. I favour St Mandé, or possibly Grenelle. Any thoughts?

Alan

[alpha]

Agreed. My thought was St. Mande when I saw it. But then again I don't know enough about Grenelle millefiori to offer an opinion. I keep hoping for a nice presentation at PCA or Wheaton on the topic. (But it seems that one of the few people who is an excellent speaker and researcher and could enlighten us wants to talk about Chinese Whites instead at Wheaton Paperweight Fest this coming May... ) No pressure here Alan.

A.

[tropdevin]

Hi Andy

I don't know enough (or have enough material) about St Mandé/Grenelle to fill a slot on that topic alone - but if there was interest in a talk on some of the more interesting and challenging ID questions in antique weights generally, then I reckon I could work one up by the time of the next PCA Convention.  I guess it would need a somewhat more snappy title!

Alan

[n_bonaparte]

I'm very sure, definitely St. Mandé

[Lily of the Valley]

Would someone please post a photo of a nice representative weight from each maker?  I am not familiar with Grenelle and only little so with St. Mande.

Lily 

[KevinH]

There are probably very few single weights that would be regarded as "representative" of either company. And Grenelle is the least covered of those two. Best places for information and images are PCA Bulletins (can't recall which ones right now) and the "Identification" books by George Kulles.

[tropdevin]

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Hi Lily

I have several examples of St Mandé and a probable Grenelle on my website.

Alan

[n_bonaparte]

enclosed you can find a very nice and typical paperweight from St. Mandé

[tropdevin]

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That's much nicer than 'typical', Andreas! I wish most were all like that with a ring of roses.

Here is an image of what I am told by an expert is a nice Grenelle, rather than St Mandé, but I couldn't be sure.

Alan

[Lily of the Valley]

Très beau! :love:

Merci tellement .... Lily

(Alan, I should have known to check your website. :hb1:  After studying the canes, I went to look at the weight on eBay only to find it .... gone!)