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He he another Mdina for me-I hope!!!

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Angela B:
Hi again,
Its morning now (I did eventually get to bed about 4.30am!). Beautiful sunny day now but still hot. Huge waves crashing on the beach (there's a cyclone way off shore somewhere). Back to the glass ...........
I've saved all those pics so I can reduce them etc. and post them for perpetuity. :thup:
You clearly have a huge collection and a vast store of knowledge, Sue.
Would you like to share some of those pictures of the signatures? I'd particularly like to see a "thick" signature. In fact, would you like to work with me on an article for the Glass Museum (www.theglassmuseum.com) about Mdina? I've been collecting material for a long time but never get around to actually doing it.
Would my blue and pink piece be what you refer to as "splodgy pieces"? If not, does it belong to another series?
And here is one of Sue's pictures of an Earthtones Chalice.

jonchellycain:
Just thought i would add, there seems to be a surge of mdina items with MH on them (ive seen 3 now in the last 6 months, one on ebay and 2 at large fairs) being sold as Michael Harris pieces.
The pieces ive seen have all got the genuine mdina script on them but the MH added at a later date by an unconnected person.

michelle

glassobsessed:
After picking Ron Wheeler brains and reading the various books mentioned this is my understanding of the various signatures seen.

First, Andy McConnell states only that the dremmel was used after 1972, not nothing was used before.

When work was signed while Michael Harris was still at Mdina it was signed using a diamond point engraver, which results in a fine (thin) mark. Here is an example of Mdina signed by Mr Harris http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11858

Here is one example of his signature http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11859

After Mr H left Mdina a dremmel was used to sign items resulting in a thicker mark being produced often with the looping signatures we see often.

For labels have a look here http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=546&page=1, just realised I have one not in the gallery so will add that later.

John

chopin-liszt:
 :-[

To be honest, I don't actually know what a dremmel is or how it works, but Michael Harris was a very fine diamond point engraver indeed, well before he started working with hot glass.

Thanks for all that extra stuff, and pics, John! I see you've got an image of a tall rectangular label with a written on bit.
I'm afraid my memory needs a lot of prompting.

I was discussing this particular Earthtones pattern with Ron, he suspects they may have been made by Joseph Said. I would suspect he's correct - I've got one of those cube shaped vases with it, which is not, to my knowledge, a Michael Harris shape.

I don't have, to hand, images of the various scripts, Angela, and I did manage to pack a load of stuff away last year (OH getting just a tad fed up of tripping over glass) but I will see what I can do. I'm afraid I'm slow, very limited in any activity at all and it all has to be accommodated around trying to manage basic "life" stuff.

There are a good few images of some wonderful stuff in another thread a while ago - while we were discussing cobalt faceted inside-out vases.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,27152.0.html

Long thread - got blethering Mdina and Michael Harris, my favourite subject!

Thanks so much for doing computery stuff on the pics - it was a lovely surprise to see that chalice pop up unexpectedly like that!  :clap:

I'd happily work with you on an article Angela - but it might take time - and there are other folk with input around too - and their prompting helps me a lot!

And yes, your blue and pink piece is what I call splodgy.

chopin-liszt:
Found a bit with thick script - though this particular one doesn't look too "sideways". Not as much as some I've seen, (the pieces with this mark on don't feature heavily in my collection. There may be some more in the attic.)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/Mdinascript.jpg
and the bottle it's on:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/Mdinascriptvase.jpg

John showed a tall rectangular label with numbers written on it, this is the wide one I've seen. It's on a later range, (one I think they may still produce - it certainly was in their website within the last few years, although the pieces I have seem to all have paper labels).
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/Mdinalabel1.jpg
the script on the base;
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/mdinalabelscript.jpg
the vase (a flat one)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/mdinaflatpurple.jpg
and on another vase from the same range;
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/mdinapurpleroundscript.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/mdinapurpleround.jpg
the vase (a round one);
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/mdinapurpleroundlabel.jpg

These vases use a completely different shade of purple to the amethyst of the early pieces. It is splodged heavily, to create the appearance of black.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/mdinaflatpurple1.jpg

the script on these is similar to the one I desribed before, as being italic-y, and reading "Molina", but this is one is much bigger than the one which appears with plastic labels.

And an unmarked, unlabelled "egg" vase in this range.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/wave/mdinapurpleegg1.jpg

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