Topic: Flavio Poli Blue Sommerso for Seguso Vetri d'Arte Bowl or Vase...

[kane_u_pain]

Interesting point pinkspoons. I have a bowl in the same colour combo as this piece that is in the turquoise optic piece I posted here...

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40695.0.html

Although the other sommerso has a different shape to the turquoise one posted here, I am wondering if the colour combo one posted here is by Poli and made before his departure from SVdA and Pinzoni took over. Sort of like a cross over. Still perplexing and hopefully clarification will come when I get more pieces together along with labels...frustrating...

I should add...generally on the Poli pieces in this colour combo, the second layer is so bothery thin it is hard for us 'crap' photographers to capture it...hopefully I can get a good shot one day of it with all this colour combo pieces together...

[Pinkspoons]

I assume that the same colours were used across different designers' work, and almost certainly for long periods of time.

I have a small Poli cylinder vase in an aqua/grey combo (the one I uploaded recently), but I also have a much larger vase in the same colours that I think should be a Pinzoni design (I'm working my way through my boxes of glass with my camera, so I should come to it in a few days).

Also, I've seen the smokey-blue of your piece used in later Seguso wares, ones bearing the post-1976 plastic label, as well as earlier ones with the shield-shaped paper label (on the second water-optic bowl I sold).

One good thing - I've just finished building a full-time photography studio, so I've no excuses for not photographing glass before it gets sold now. My main problem before was the effort of clearing a space to set everything up for every item that I bought. Now I can just plonk it straight on the shooting table. 

[kane_u_pain]

I have noticed that on the later pieces from the 70's that they can't seem to get the colour of the main layer right. It is either to dark or too 'watered' down. The main coloured layer on this one is good and resembles the colour of the ones I have with the shield label. I also think the 70's pieces are more prolific than the Poli/Pinzoni ones.

One day, we will get this clarified.

That is good, we need as many SVdA peices listed here to help clarify things as it is such a confusing company. I won't be selling mine for a while as it is my favourite company. And if I do, it will definitely be posted here fo future reference before it goes the way of auction...

Should add...for comparision...

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31169.0.html

[Pinkspoons]

I think the colour was quite variable even in the pre-1973 period. I've had a few early items that have been the same hue but completely different tone.

Ah, if only I'd had a studio earlier - I could then back up my words with pictures! Still, I'm sure we'll get there. 

[rocco]

According to Heiremans great book.:

the water optic ("resina a corteccia") range was designed by Mario Pinzoni around 1966.

Michael