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Author Topic: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base  (Read 2917 times)

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Offline Anik R

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 04:21:42 PM »
The base of the vase has got circular marks going around the polished pontil to the edge of the vase.  The pontil itself has got horizontal lines going though it.  The 'V' also has lines, but going in a slightly different direction than the ones in the pontil.  That's why I thought the 'V' mark was also polished.

Then again, I've got no idea what I'm talking about  :pb:

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 05:18:58 PM »
Would you be able to provide clear, detailed close-ups of the base of the vase, straight-on, and the top of the vase as well, looking straight-on down from above?


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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 05:40:15 PM »
OK...  I'm ready to make a bigger fool of myself than I already have  ;D 

Here are more pictures:


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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 05:57:22 PM »
Super job on the photos, really excellent.  The V you're referring to is, in my opinion, not a deliberate mark but cold-work cleaning up of the pontil scar.  As for the Ikora attribution, I'm not certain, and would have to handle it to be sure.  But, the handles are definitely similar to those used by them occasionally, albeit usually on Myra pieces.  Without handling the piece, I personally can't be sure, but my instincts tell me uncommon Ikora at this point.  FYI: the only pieces of Ikora I've seen which have been uneven or leaning are experimental pieces, or those made by apprentices, which could explain the handles too.  However, one must be extremely careful in such circumstances - remember the handled "Monart" piece in the Ysart Glass book.

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 06:14:15 PM »
Oooooo... no man has ever offered to handle my glass before...  :24:  :24:  :24:

(Mod, please don't throw me off the board...  it's the humidity... and the mould...  really...  brain-issues  :spls:)

Thank you, Paul, for taking the time to look and giving your opinion.  It would be really lovely if it was an Ikora experimental piece...  not that I think it's a nice vase...  I still think it's as ugly as h*ll  ;D

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 07:46:05 PM »
definitely NOT Ikora..the base would be polished with no pontil....the handles look "Italian" to me...this is a "cluthra" vase....I say it's contemporary.... ;D

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 08:09:43 PM »
Blair, thank you for the input  :)

So it's most probably not Ikora... there go all my romantic visions of a young glassmaker learning the trade and turning out this monstrousity before deciding he should become a shoe-shine boy or something that doesn't require artistic talent.  ;D

But seriously, I really don't think this vase is 'contemporary' -- maybe it depends what you mean by the word.

I have my doubts that this vase was made within the last 20 years...  it doesn't seem to be the right style for a 'contemporary' piece.    :-\ 

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 09:14:49 PM »
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the base would be polished with no pontil

Not necessarily; this piece has a ground base and a pontil mark

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,32663.0.html

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2010, 01:20:24 AM »
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the base would be polished with no pontil

Not necessarily; this piece has a ground base and a pontil mark

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,32663.0.html

I guess I should of said "a polished base or a polished pontil"...I've never seen an Ikora vase with a pontil scar...as far as "contemporary" goes...i think it was made in the past 25 years....the base seems to have little or no wear....

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Re: Orange mottled vase with a 'V' carved in the base
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2010, 03:28:07 AM »
Hi,

I just thought I'd add that the base has got alot of wear in one 3cm x 1cm spot... the vase really doesn't sit flush, so only that point rubs against the surface.

Aha, also, the outside of the vase is smooth, but the inside is lumpy-bumpy.  I can feel the air bubbles.

Again, I appreciate the input!

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