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Frosted & clear crystal animals: Nachtmann, Goebel

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RAY:
i've just sold one but mine was marked Goebel on the base and this one  Nachtmann, so who makes them?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7370886106&ru=http

David555:
A good point Ray

I know Goebel have been making frosted glass animals with clear octagonal bases for a while, here is their often seen eagle I have sold many times



I have only recently noticed Nachtmann selling a similar type of animal with the same base (though some new ones have pedestalled bases etc.) through eBay. I have to admit I have never noticed a complete Goebel clone before, anyone know if there has been a merger or designer leap recently?

Miller A-Z has Nachtmann listed as a company based in Germany (1834 to present) and on the net it appears to still be a company in its own right; mind you they are both German companies (Goebel & Nachtmann).

I have Nachtmann vases and bowls but not animals

Ray - have you a photo of your donkey as I am getting very similar but not quite the same Nachtmann animals - I have just looked through about 100 on eBay old listings - could it be the items are similar but not quite with subtle diffrences?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOEBEL-PAPERWEIGHT-LALIQUE-TYPE-GLASS-SHETLAND-PONY_W0QQitemZ7364894728QQcategoryZ88QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Goebel

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7370886106&ru=http Nachtmann

Adam P

Anne:
I have a Nachtmann pony in this style.    http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-262

The base is clear octagonal. The pony is frosted. There is an etched Nachtmann mark on the base    http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-599 and a Crystal Creations clear plastic label on the side of the pedestal. Crystal Creations label is here:    http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-590

I also noticed whilst Googling, that Nachtmann is now offered on the Dartington website here: http://www.dartington.co.uk/acatalog/Nachtmann.html

David555:
Thanks Anne the two Pony's are excatly the same with a Nachtmann and Goebel label

How confusing :?

Ivo:
Nachtmann is a huge company and will make figurines for anyone who commissions them. They have bought up several industries (such as Lenox USA) and are most succesful as crystal marketeers and producers.
Most of their wares are traditional with a high granny-appeal and most of us would not mistake them for works of art. Still, I was quite amazed at the quality of this pig. It is labeled "Princess House pets" - by Nachtmann

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