Topic: curious condition of U. toilet water bottle.

[Cathy B]

It is odd that it's so consistent. Paul, could you get some more pictures of the surface, particularly where the stopper goes from the lid to the ground section.

[antiquerose123]

I don't have a clue, but I will add this -- that I found on the net:

http://www.stylendesign.co.uk/guidepages/eatoc2.html (Quoted from there):

crisselling or crizzling. A deterioration in glass, due to an incorrect chemical composition notably excess alkali. Sometimes seen on ancient glass. The surface feels moist, and the glass will eventually decompose and crumble. The presence or absence of this defect cannot be used as an indication of the date alone. The exception being Chinese glass where it is thought to be less common in post 18th century glass.


So I too am clueless...unless this could have something to do with it.....Could it have been in the Ocean at one time, and found?  I dunno, just a thought -- as I found this.  Not sure IF this relates at all ...

http://seaglassblog.blogspot.com/

Quoted from that Link:
"That frosty, pitted surface is what many sea glass hunters, historians and collectors admire.  At right: Machine tumbled, craft glass created for floral arranging and landscaping.  Though craft glass and machine tumbled glass can be pretty, it should not be called sea glass.  It's not been through the historic journey that (for example) a 1900's bottle or tableware piece has endured at the hands of the sea's unique conditioning and smoothing process."

 :huh: Just a WILD guess...........

[Max]

It's not sea glass Rose    It would be unlikely that the stopper would stay with the bottle whilst in the ocean...and also that my identical bottle & stopper did the same thing.  As far as I'm concerned, sea glass (like the glass you find on a beach...old bottle glass generally) appears frosted and smooth without this curious pitting.   

[Paul S.]

Cathy - this is not an easy piece to photograph  -  somehow the light seems to bounce off a little too much, and trying to capture the surface pitting/corrosion is difficult.    However, this evening I will have another go and post some more pictures for you.      On the first Tuesday of the month (afternoons only) the V. & A. in London offer a  'you bring it in, and we just might be able to tell you what it is' day, so I will take this piece with me.    In view of Christine's offering taken from the museum's technical notes, I'm hoping they are able to be more positive on this particular piece.     As far as I know, the appearance of 'Sea glass' is due solely to the effects of abrasion by sand and pebble, over a long period of time  -  a giant sized tumbler in effect.

[Paul S.]

this then is for Cathy..........hope you can see the lower part of the stopper which, although damaged and scratched, does show a much smoother area from the bottom up almost towards the first 'waist'.    The other pic. does show better the minute crazing, I hope.

[Lustrousstone]

That's crizzling.

[Max]

...and that's not how mine looks!  Which is very odd really!  I'll do some pics tomorrow or Friday and add them.  :thup:

[jonchellycain]

I was just having a browse through some bits in the cafe and came across a link in one of antiquerose's threads http://www.vaselineglass.org/FACTORY.HTML look at the 18th picture down, i think its the same
"Boston & Sandwich Glass Co. cologne bottle, c. 1840-1870"
michelle

[Lustrousstone]

'er we went there on page 1  :kissy:

[jonchellycain]

im not avin a good day today Christine  :pb: :nogos: just ignore me