Topic: what SORT of bottle?

[Patricia]

I am in contact with the lady who writes that blog Anne, and I will give her a ring later.
I have good hopes of finding out more as she is the curator of the Altare glass museum.
She is also the one who put me in contact with Maria Brondi, one of the big glass historians on Altare.
I did find out already that sometimes we talk a bit too quick about Venice when we should look at Altare really.

Patricia

[Anne]

Fingers crossed she can help Patricia. Some of the blog posts are by Maria as well. It's very interesting reading.

[Patricia]

She did help already somewhat but I find it rather confusing.
They have this saint in Altare called Rocco, patron saint for their glassblowers and always pictured with a glass flask hanging from his hip.
Never found such a picture so far though.
Then there is another saint in Altare called Filiberto who is patron saint of the glass arts.

I was told to call back next week so they could study things themselves a bit more and come up with some better answers.
Fingers crossed, like you said.

Patricia

[David E]

Here's a photo of Saint/San Rocco:

http://www.vasanellovt.it/FOTO%20SITO%20WEB%20VASANELLO/San%20Rocco%20001.jpg

The flask can clearly be seen on his right hip. Thanks to Patricia! The reason most of these effigies and paintings have him showing his leg, is because of a plague sore that healed - seemingly one of the miracles necessary to beatify him.

[rosieposie]

We have come back to feeding bottles again,  Paul has a thread about a mystery glass cup,  and so at the risk of appearing to go off topic, HOWEVER, I thought I would own up to the fact that I was the designer of the Avent Baby feeding bottle, 40 years ago!!!....but I am sad to say it is injection molded PLASTIC!!

But back to Ivo's lovely bottle.....if it was recycled glass,  could it have been designed to be disposable,  and the worry of refilling/cleaning not deemed to be an issue??

[David E]

That's quite a claim to fame! Even more so that they are still making it today... do you still get royalties???

But in the meantime I came across another photo with the same-style flask hanging from San Rocco's staff:
http://www.rioneterravecchia.com/SAN%20ROCCO%20%20PROTETTORE%20%20DI%20%20PISTICCI.jpg

It's quite a compelling find and could link it to Altare.

[rosieposie]

Slight digression......No royalties David when you are employed to design anything....it took Cannon (the manuacturers), nearly 20 years to be brave enough to launch the design,  it was so different to other bottles on the market.....and yes,  it is still a WORLD best seller!!

Back to the water bottle.....I have had a look at pictures of St. Rocco,  and I think you are absolutely right Ivo...and thinking about it realistically,  the water could be easily sucked out from the narrow neck,  and yet if the bottle were tipped over, it wouldn't spill the contents.  Have you tried filling it with water to see if it bobs back upright if knocked over?  You can see I am a very practical nurse,  can't you!!?

[Ivo]

the bottle will not stand stable on a flat surface, so *kaboom* to that superb idea.  :hi:

[antiquerose123]

the bottle will not stand stable on a flat surface, so *kaboom* to that superb idea.  :hi:

  :hat: A Chemist Bottle that is used upside down to hang....and the small nozzle would be used to *attach* some rubber tubing.  It may have been used upside down to capture.  When I went to school, we had some Beakers like this to use for Chemistry, but when they were used they were inverted upside down on a metal stand.....

Anyways -- that is what they look like to me, and my 2 cents worth  :X: but that is a guess yet here???

[oldglassman]

 these look to be similer,

http://www.markwest-glass.com/DynamicPages/Enlargement.php?StockID=3171.

Peter.