thank you Patricia and Ivo!
I feel this is a minefield out there

so I shall retreat back to my normal collecting and just pick up hyacinth vases as I see them, so I have a nice display at Christmas.
Ivo, I wasn't really looking for much other than how to grow a hyacinth successfully in a vase, as mine this year failed. Turns out that was because I did it all wrong
Then whilst I was at it, decided to try and look for these two as they looked so pristine.
Thank you both so much for your time, I really appreciate it as I learn along the way.
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