Topic: id request for small smoky decanter.

[Cathy B]

It's possible that everyone here is right. To me, it seems to be grey with ther very slightest nod in the green direction.

You have to remember that people perceive colours differently as well. A friend of mine always jokes about my lack of red receptors, because there is a dark colour she sees as purple that I define as blue.

[Carolyn Preston]

I'm going with grey with a greenish tinge.  :hat:

Carolyn

[langhaugh]

Interesting. I saw it as greenish, although I wasn't sure whether it was the background or the glass. I'm using a brand new imac, so I should be getting reasonably accurate colour rendition. I  tried different colour settings, and they all came out with some green in them, at least to my eyes. I copied the picture and edited it. It took an 18% shift in the tint to take out all the green.

When you say you use a very neutral background, what neutral colour is it?

David

[Lustrousstone]

You also have to remember women can see more "colours" (for want of a better word) than men. My monitor gives pretty good colour rendition and I am very good at colour matching and differentiating between shades.


Grey glass is rarely a percentage of black, though Dartington comes pretty close. Some are brownish, some are bluish and some are greenish, as this one is.

[vidrioguapo]

I've a fairly good eye for colour, :spls: and I see green too, was somewhat confused  when it was described as Midnight!......sorry, please don't bite my head off!

[Leni]

I also saw this as green, until I copied the photo, tweaked the colour cast, and then I could see the blue.

I hope you will excuse me copying your photo in order to play with it, Paul.  I have now deleted it from my file.

[Paul S.]

Max - please don't take it too seriously, after all I did include a smiley with my comment   I'm sure that you have a greater intuitive knowledge of glass than me - however, I do make every effort to make sure that my descriptions are as accurate as I can make them.   If a piece is 'Midnight', then that is what I will say, and if it is green, then green I will describe it as - and if I can't differentiate between the two, then I shall give up collecting glass     It seemed, from looking at the thread, that people were not actually reading the text of my post.  I hope we are still friends Max  :hi: :kissy:     
I wont' reply individially to everyone, but just to say that it does in fact seems possible that the problem arises from the fluorescent lighting, and presumably (as Lustrousstone has recently reminded me) certain types of glass make up, may well contain more Manganese than others, thus giving rise, possibly, to a 'greenish' appearance - due perhaps to some of the light wavelength from the tube.    However, certainly on my camera and screen there didn't seem to be any green apparent.  It isn't always possible to photograph in daylight - which I suspect is the best form of lighting, hence the problem.    In comparing this and the FT piece, it might be argued that the decanter does have a hint of 'brownish', possibly, but in the flesh there is definitely no green.    Feel free to use my pics. as you wish, within the bounds of courtesy and decency, but if they end up in 'Penthouse' then I want the credits .........too much 'sea green' Emmi  - old lady syndrome is it
My background is a sort of off white, which seems best for most coloured glass - but I will speak to one of my clever sons and ask about the 'white balance' on the camera - this may be a worthwhile point to discuss.
I was also unaware that the fairer sex could perceive more colours than us men.
Sorry this is a bit of a rush job, but there are those of us that need to work, and someone has to keep the world of commerce running.

[malcyp]

i know jg durand "france".made gin sets,which could explain the decanter being small as the decanters for gin tend to be this way.
also i have some jg durand glasses from the 60's which are a smokey grey colour,and at the base where the glass is at its thickest its almost black.i will try and get a photo on if your interested.
not sure if a set made by them would have a polished pontil though.

[Paul S.]

malcyp  -  thanks for your informative reply  -  to be honest it had never occured to me that it might be a 'gin decanter'.  I have decanters for Scotch, Brandy, Port, Sherry (not that they all contain booze at the same time) - but for some reason had never thought of one for Gin (it just stays in the bottle).   If I understand correctly, Durrand were more into utility type glass, rather than up-market pieces.

[Paul S.]

just on my way to bed, and had a thought to put the uv torch across this decanter.........and lo and behold the thick base and a part of the neck give a subdued hint of olive green, so I guess manganese.........and throughout the rest of the body there are those pin prick points of brilliant deep blue.........but what causes those I think I now forget - is it very tiny whitish seeds in the metal?