Topic: 40th Anniversary of EIIR Coronation paperweight ~ Caithness?

[johnfandmaryp]

Hi guys,

Just wondered if anyone can confirm for me that this paperweight is by Caithness ~ it's inscribed 10/2000 on the bottom, but there's no maker's mark. About 2.5"/6.5cm in diameter.

Thanks in anticipation, John.

[KevinH]

Yes, it was commissioned by the dealer, Peter Jones China in 1993.

There was also a Cobalt base version, rather than the Ruby of yours, John. There was also a ruby overlay version with facets. The overaly was a 40 piece edition, the Cobalt base version was 250 pieces and the Ruby base one was, indeed, 2000 items.

[johnfandmaryp]

Thank you very much Kev.

As it happens, I also have the faceted ruby overlay one with a Millefiori crown and Whitefriars Monk cane ~ they came in a mixed lot which I bought at auction recently. That one was a bit easier to ID, as it was marked as Caithness!!

Many thanks again, John. 

[Wuff]

There were weights in 1992 (40 years accession) and 1993 (Coronation). The 1993 weights mentioned by KevH can be viewed on Scotlandsglass:
Ruby version (this post), Coronation Coach engraved.
Cobalt version (which is a pedestal type), Coronation Coach engraved.
Ruby Overlay with a Millefiori Crown and the monk cane. Two versions of this weight with different facetting are known - could be prototypes.

[johnfandmaryp]

Thank you Wuff ~ very useful! I'll be listing the ruby coach and also the overlay on eBay on Sunday, and will include an acknowledgement and link with the details if you don't mind.
Cheers, John. 

[tropdevin]

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Does anyone else share my misgivings about the way this Board is used on occasion, whereby someone with relatively little knowledge of a particular subject gets other with greater expertise to give free identification advice - not because their main wish is to learn more, but because they hope to make a profit for themselves (usually on eBay)?  It is good that they acknowledge the contribution of Board members in their adverts, but how about the idea that they should offer a donation - say 10% of sale price ? - to the GMB? (In this case that might not be very much: I tried to sell one of these weights last year, starting it at £4.99. It got no bids, so I put it into auction in a mixed lot...) .

Any thoughts or comments?

Alan

[Lustrousstone]

Coming from someone who links to his paperweights website, which includes a for sale section, in his signature...

Knowledge shared is knowledge gained by everyone. Does it matter what that information is used for (illegal or dubious purposes excepted)? Can you honestly say you have never profited by something you learned here, even if only to nab something for your collection?

How would we police it?

[tropdevin]

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Hi Christine

I think what I was referring to is very different from saying 'Hey! I have some items for sale. Take a look!'.  I have no difficulty with that on the GMB, whether via a website link, an ebay link, or a link in the appropriate sales area.  That is not drawing on other people's knowledge to determine the identity or possible value of something.  Indeed, if I make a mistake and list a Bacchus on my website as a 'Murano', with a Murano price, I bet someone would snap it up, rather than say 'Do you realise that is a Bacchus?'.


Regarding knowledge - yes, I agree that we should all share knowledge. And I am sure that we all profit by doing so, in one way or another, whether that is obvious in the short term or not.  I was not suggesting a rigid scheme that should be policed: I was suggesting something that individuals might feel was appropriate on occasion, in order to help the GMB, given the specific benefits that they have obtained from it.

Alan

[vidrioguapo]

I have no difficulty with that on the GMB, whether via a website link, an ebay link, or a link in the appropriate sales area.  That is not drawing on other people's knowledge to determine the identity or possible value of something.

Sellers, whether they are regular business sellers, or just "one off" occasional sellers, have to get their information from somewhere, surely that's the whole point of this and other glass forums!  Nobody is born with an inbuilt fountain of knowledge on any particular subject as far as I know! :huh:

Sounds like you are having a "grumpy day", as I can't really see the point you are making.  This forum is full of people who buy to sell as well as collector's who occasionally sell.
 :huh: :huh: :huh:

[Lustrousstone]

My point was, what's the the difference between free advertising and free information when both are aimed at making a profit. You'd have difficulty proving the GMB helped in either situation, especially in a field like paperweights. Isn't the GMB part of doing the research?