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A mixed bunch?
David555:
Hi
Della that is a great ID
I forgot about this thread while in the meantime I posted a glass bowl in similar colours with a Canadian label - Identified as Chalet!
A good website link was given - I have looked and also see the vase in question in varied colours http://www.mblaisgallery.com/dynamic/artists/Chalet_Art_Glass_Glass.asp
Adam P
Sklounion:
Hi, Is all chalet signed?
One needs to be cautious about unsigned pieces. Peter and I recently discussed a piece, which seems generic. Our conclusion is that these were quite common, and though others may have followed the trend, some of these pieces are Czechoslovakian, some are designed by Frantisek Zemek, some produced by Teplicke Sklo, Mstisov,(formerly Inwald) and later by Karlovarske Sklo Moser. Unlike Moser proper, which I believe always to have been signed, KSM items may merely have had paper labels, long gone.
Czech glass 1945-1990 is, as I am continually finding, an area of surprises.
In Communist era Czechoslovakia, there was a dedicated studio of etched glass, which does not appear in any of the western, English language texts. I found this studio yesterday, but with the exception of one Cz language text, I have never seen any other reference to such a studio. Ostensibly it came under the control of the same organisation that ran Beranek/Skrdlovice.
Regards,
Marcus
David555:
A quote that sums up 'Chalet Artistic Glass' 1958 - 81 "Chalet glass is often unmarked" from a forum I found discussing Chalet.
I think without a mark or label many pieces are attributed to Murano (Chalet was even called Murano Glass Incorporated 1960-62, A-Z fact file pp31), or post war Czech.
It makes sense therefore that many pieces of Murano and Czech are attributed to Chalet. I am not sure how the seller given in the above link assesses what is and is not Chalet - some pieces look so close to Czech, more so than Murano.
I only knew this piece was Canadian ('Chalet' I am told), because of the label - I guess experts can tell, but without the label I could see it being sold as Czech or Murano on eBay.
It would be good to get a list of Chalet labels, marks and shapes together. I wonder if there is a dedicated collector, perhaps based in Canada on the board that could help out.
Marcus the new studio you found linked to Beranek/Skrdlovice sounds fascinating.
Adam P
Sklounion:
Hi Adam,
The etched glass studio in Prague, is being investigated further. The activities of UUR, who ran Skrdlovice, and also controlled the Simice-founded Glass Cutting Centre remain something of a mystery. The glass-cutting centre is documented in a minor way in Ricke, but the etching studio is a new one to me, and was clearly advertised as a individual unit, in Umeni a Remesla, the Czechoslovakian art and crafts quarterly.
regards,
Marcus
paradisetrader:
#1 I agree with Ivo - Czech, Chribska and I like it a lot !
#2 Oberglass
#3 Ok this is what most of the discussion has been about but which has perhaps become rather confusing to some. To recap then :
Della's item is similar in style to those discussed another topic.
Marcus and I had thought at one time that there was a relationship between them but the colours in Dellas are more muted and the flanges slimmer - but still solid, Della ?
The piece I post there has been pretty well pinned down as Czech attributed as Marcus says above - so not relevant to your piece Della - as you have found one identical to yours which is signed as Chalet, there can be very little if any doubt, that is indeed what it is. I hope this makes things clearer.
There is only the slimmest chance that someone went wild with the dremmel but Chalet would not be the first choice for profit maximization so incredibly unlikely.
This discussion shows well the potential dangers of ID by stylistic similarity alone.
Signed examples of Chalet are known but I agree that most Chalet is NOT signed, hence the problem of identifying much of it, given the similarity of their forms and styles to Murano and some Czech production. :roll:
Adam P
there is at least one other glass company in Canada which is called Altaglass. I have only seen one example and its not like yours or the Chalet stuff.
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