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Peace & Plenty jug on eBay - any ideas?

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Anne:
Neil, not sure if you're aware of it so I'll mention it for reference, that there's a Peace and Plenty plate shown in Jenny Thompson's book The Identification of English Pressed Glass (page 68, plate 35) which seems to have sheaves of corn and grapes in the pattern, plus a star base. Jenny says it's Greener, RD no. 115743 dated 14 Dec 1888. The photo's not too clear so I can't confirm it's a match with the eBay pattern but it may help a little, even if only to eliminate a maker. :)

Anne:
Found a mention of Peace and Plenty being a national catchphrase in the late 1880s as well here: http://www.swallowcliffehall.com/times1.html

Something else I noticed, and which may or may not be helpful, is that the jug has three rows of dots making up the letters. I have several plates with dotted letters and they all have either one row or two rows of dots. None has three rows... I can't make out how many rows there are on the aforementioned Greener P&P plate in Jenny Thompson, but the letters appear to be fairly thick.

neilh:
Thanks Anne,

Yes I see it in Thompson's book. I would be prepared to believe that the jug goes with the plate and they are northeast pieces. They look more that style.

As to my John Bright plate, it's the history of the Corn Laws that leads me to attribute that one to Molineaux and Webb. Both Thomas Molineaux and John Bright were founder members of the Anti Corn Law League when it started as just a few dozen people in Manchester in the late 1830s. Bright was a local MP and Molineaux was a Manchester councillor. Later on, Thomas Webb joined the campaign as well, and the pair of them supported Richard Cobden and John Bright by arranging functions, donating glassware etc.

mhgcgolfclub:
New to my collection this week and added for reference for this post a Henry Greener peace and plenty registered Jug RD 115743 clearly marked inside the base.

Roy

neilh:
I should mention that I no longer believe the Peace and Plenty John Bright plate mentioned on this thread is by Molineaux Webb. The best guess, after reviewing this with some fellow researchers, is 1870s to 1880s northeast, though we have failed to identify a likely maker.

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