Topic: Pressed Glass Roses Plate/Charger ID Help Please

[meegs]

Good Evening Everyone,
I'm looking for help identifing this charger/plate.
I thought I had this IDed as Jobling Rose Number 10000 (from looking at 20thcenturyglass.com ) but now after much scrutiny I do not think this is an example of the above pattern.
The similarities are this charger/plate stands on 3 rose bloom feet and is decorated with entwined leaves; but the foliage is quite different to the above pattern. The underside is satin/acid etched and the topside is polished. There is a reasonable amount of wear to the feet.
The piece is 2 1/4 inches high and the diameter is just a smidgen under 12 inches. I would estimate the weight to be around 1 kilo (or over 2 pounds)

Cheers
Meegs :hb1:

[Lustrousstone]

I think you're right. Mueller might be a good bet; they were very keen on realistic roses.

[GlassIsGood]

Could it be early Waltherglas?  I've got three matching pieces with realistic roses on that are done in a similar way (though it would be a different pattern - mine is Natascha) which I have identified as early Waltherglas from a different factory (Germany) to their more modern pieces - the colour is similar too.  The earlier pieces have very lifelike flowers on them.

[Lustrousstone]

That's not an Auguste Walther & Sohne pattern I've come across. Where did you get your ID from?

[GlassIsGood]

Christine

I didn't I was only looking at the design similarity in style and the way it was done to pieces that I already have and know and making a tentative comparison.

Sorry if that's not allowed. :cry:

When I said matching pieces, I meant that the three I had matched, not that they matched the piece being enquired about.

[Lustrousstone]

Don't be daft. I was just wondering where you got the ID for your Walther pieces from.

I've given my thoughts on the one in question.

[GlassIsGood]

I'm revising my ID, my bits are Rosella, t'internet had a poor link in it - I've found a different picture of a piece and the box it came from and that clearly says Rosella

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/rosella-pink-glass-bowl-mikasa-walther-glass-w

I like the Walther glas pieces and was at a boot sale the other week a lady let me have Rosella torte plate, a large oval shaped Rosella plate/bowl and the double relish/bonbon dish for a grand total of £8!  I think I prefer them to the more modern pieces like the Satin Roses.

However, I already have a pink Satin Roses bowl, a clear/white satin roses heart shaped bonbon dish and a Toska cake stand (I'm happy with the ID of Toska as it came boxed).

The piece in this thread looks to have been made using a similar technique

[Lustrousstone]

Your Walther-Glas pieces are modern ( http://www.waltherglas.de/waltherglas4/Start_EN/start_home.html ). I thought you were talking Auguste Walther & Sohne. Meegs piece is probably 1930s/40s

[GlassIsGood]

That's right, but apparently even the 1980/90's pieces are older and discontinued from those still made today and I think were from a different factory.  Although it is probably already known on here I found the Walther glass you mean on this link http://www.black-poppy.co.uk/mc/walther/list.htm.  What makes you feel the piece in this thread is that old?  I look at my Rosella 'modern' pieces and they have a very retro feel to them - could easily be early 1960's yet aren't.

[meegs]

Thank-you Christine,
I'll start looking for references re: Mueller, as I know nothing about this maker (although I have seen the odd beautiful piece attributed to them on e-bay) and assume they were a German company.
The detail and quality of finish are very fine and it is one of those pieces I can't keep my hands off as it is quite silky to touch. Looking down on the piece the  intensifying colour as the glass gets thicker on the feet/blooms give the roses a lovely depth.
Meegs