Hi Folks
Well this has been great fun and I've learned a lot - a bit like an educational whodunnit.
Thanks to new contributors as well as Glen who has shown so much patience with this newbie. Glen: So NOT Inwald Carnival .......but maybe bohemian depression irridised ?
Adam: Thanks for your input
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I guess that would explain the lack of mold lines !
fire-polished rim> yes I go along with that. I hadn't given the rim much attention till now. I only have one other item on display where this is done - a Beranek signed studio vase - and the knobblyness on the rim is just like that piece - I dont know if that has any significance or not.
Base Rim > is not that pronounced - as far as I can measure max 4mm
Copper Blue> I have been unable to find a piece on EBay worldwide in current or present listings - so cant't compare - but have looked very closely at this topic and the base compares exactly (as far as its possible to tell) to the base area of this Ice Blue item
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29570&item=3749344151&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW&tc=photo and this is just one of several Ice Blue Carnival pieces Ive compared it to.
Frank: So Walsh Walsh is a possibility ? If so I seem to be unconsciously collecting their pieces and must get the book ! But I doubt it will help with this piece so is there any way to investigate further ?
Tony H> I have located Dave Doty's web site
http://www.ddoty.com/ and excellent it is. I've looked at Soda Gold pattern and the veins look more pronounced and the space between them larger than my piece BUT we have already established that it can't be American Carnival in any case beause of the fire polished rim. Thanks for the suggestion.
I also looked up Ice Blue in Dity's color refrence and this is what he has to say about it "Ice blue is a very pale color and has pastel iridescence." which seems to fit my piece.
Glen:
Out of interest I looked at some Carnival crackle patterns (including the exterior of Dugan Four Flowers) and all seem more random than mine which is surpisingly regular.
Also the shapes made by the viens on mine are almost all elongated diamonds with only a very few squarish and triangular shapes.
The viens seem less pronounced than those on the American patterns and mine also has major and minor veins. The major ones go all the way from the base to the rim.
Finally the space inside the under rim is not patterned at all on mine whereas it is on the US Carnival crackle bowls I have seen (pics of).
Depression
I have now also looked at as many depression crackle pattern items as I can find and have found no pattern which compares well. Comments would be similar to those for Carnival crackle patterns except with even more divergence.
So Walsh Walsh or Irridised European then ?