Topic: Debut 20th century Vase Mont Joye Legras?

[Margi]

Good evening all

I decided to purchase the other vase after all as I was thinking about it.  This one does really strike me as beginning of the 20th century Legras, or after a suggestion on my biscuit barrel Mont Joye.  Not signed. Ground out pontil lots of wear on the base. Green frosted with gold flower decoration.  Decoration wearing away but the actual glass is growing old gracefully with no damage.  The body of the vase has wide vertical ribbing of which can be seen and felt.  Crimped rim as can be seen.
What do we all think id wise and age please.
Many thanks
Margi

[Glasshound]

Definitely not Legras / Mont Joye. Looks turn of the century...

Blair

[flying free]

I have a signed Legras vase in this shape. 
Was your assertion that this was not Legras, based on the glass or the enamelling?  I'm curious because I thought I had read somewhere that others used Legras blanks and also obviously because I have a signed vase in this shape and with the internal ribs.
Margi if you are still using the board, what size is your vase please? 

m

[Margi]

Hi sorry M the vase was moved on a fair while ago but from what I remember it was about 20-24cm tall.  I have since seen others here in France but not very often.  I have seen them in this green and also like a frosted white always with decoration.

[flying free]

Thanks Margi
This is mine. It is signed with the Leg enamelled signature. It is 27cm tall and I am certain is is the same shape as yours and also has the internal ribs although they don't show on my photos because of the lighting. The pontil mark also looks to be the same size as yours.  I have three other vases that I believe are Legras enamelled vases, although all are unsigned.  Two have a very large pontil mark, one has the same size pontil mark as this one (an Oeuf shape vase with enamelled boat scene and trees).
m

[flying free]

And if you scroll down on this link the same shape is in a museum in France, which has a dedicated collection of Legras on show (top left hand side when you scroll down to the selection of glass all together).
http://www.monthureux.fr/legras.htm

As discussed on other posts, I guess there is a possibility since Margi's is unsigned, that it maybe  a Legras blank bought in and decorated by another decorating house.  Is there also the possibility that another factory was making exactly the same shape?
m

[selina]

The peacock vase is just stunning!

[flying free]

thanks