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Author Topic: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?  (Read 1727 times)

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Offline Max

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Re: S.A.L.I.R ? Studio Ars Labor Industrie Riunite Bottega ?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 02:11:08 PM »
Thanks all for your help  :kissy:

I don't think it's cricket or baseball, but a oriental theatre theme / acrobat is interesting.  Someone else at the fair hesitantly suggested Orrefors...but it's way out of any time period I'm familiar with for them.

I'll move this over to Glass...thanks again for your time in helping.  :)x

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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 02:33:32 PM »
Hi Max, the figure looks Oriental, his he trying to catch something? could the triangular thingy at the bottom be a net? butterflies maybe or birds snakes even?pokes them with the stick and catches them in the net or even more sinister catches the birds or snakes in the net and whacks them with the stick? and takes them home for tea, no? thought not  :wsh:
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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 02:36:12 PM »
Take a look at the fisherman here, http://www.travelpod.com/travel-photo/byrnedm/east_asia_2004/1094816640/02_cormorant_fisherman.jpg/tpod.html.  I think it's a really neat glass!!
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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2010, 05:46:35 PM »
Been thinking again about this Max and now think your visitor may indeed have been heading in the right direction! 

It occurred to me that in the Italian Commedia Dell'Arte there is a character called Pulcinella, the basis for our Punch in Punch and Judy - this would explain the stick, the mask and the harlequinned jacket - although I don't know where the nets would fit in. 

I was going to post a question about S.A.L.I.R. in the near future as I would really like to know more about them and their work and I was wondering whether anyone else knew a lot about them or knew whether there was a good reference book on them. 

Any examples of their work that I have seen are stylistically different to this but there were a number of different engravers working there.  Presumably, even if this is not an example of their work there must have been other Venetian glasshouses engraving at around this time.

Sorry if I have gone 'all round the houses' on this!

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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2010, 06:16:42 PM »
I thought it was a harlequin tightrope walker too - with a safety-net under him. His buttoned (pom-pommed?) trouser bottoms don't look as if he's anything sporty, and only golfers wear "harlequinned" jumpers - not jackets (I hope).
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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2010, 06:23:03 PM »
I think that Jinxi and Sue have got it!  It's Harlequin! 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cezanne_Harlequin.JPG

What do you think?

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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2010, 06:43:15 PM »
And Tam Bam!
He's on tip-toe on the tightrope. Harlequins pre-date clowns by a fair bit, don't they? And they weren't all funny - could sometimes be quite sinister.....
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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2010, 08:00:21 PM »
Well, definitely a case of getting there in the end - I think it really fits with the Cezanne picture and Harlequin being an acrobat, but now the question is who made the vase?

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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2010, 08:28:26 PM »
Well, I think I might have to move this back to Murano....   :thud:

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Re: Not S.A.L.I.R Any clue to ID ? Or what costume ?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2010, 03:31:09 PM »
It's probably Guido Balsamo Stella for S.A.L.I.R. He was prone to touristy venetian imagery (though could be one of the minor murano houses ripping him off)


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