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Offline ejean9

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date cane query
« on: September 27, 2010, 08:08:30 PM »
Hi folks..did Murano artists ever make pw with a cane of 1846 ?
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Re: date cane query
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 10:17:24 PM »
There are many 20th century Murano millefiori weights with 19th century date canes. I had heard that at one time it was possible to request a particular date and it would be put into the weight.
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Re: date cane query
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 07:40:40 AM »
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Hi Jean

I have a Murano with an 1846 date cane. My has small, thin black letters on on oval tablet, and is much less common than the version that has a bold date in a white cane squashed between other millefiori canes.  I have seen the dates 1846, 1852, 1869, 1885, 1887 - there may well be more, tailor made as Kev H suggests.  1846, 1869 and 1885 seem to turn up quite a lot.

If you find a weight with a 19th C date in it, the odds are it was not made in the 19th C.  Whilst there are genuinely dated French, Bohemian and American weights from the 1845 - 1853 period, I estimate that 90% or more of the 19th C dates are either Murano (with dates as above, and others) or '1848' dated Arculus / Walsh Walsh weights.

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Re: date cane query
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 10:36:52 AM »
How about sending us a picture of the paperweight showing the date?  While it is true that 1846 might be a fake from Murano, it could also be a legitimate 19th century paperweight from 1846.
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Re: date cane query
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 11:47:55 AM »
Thanks for the help folks..this is the only image i have at present..i had an offer to buy it for £40 but was unsure if it was worth that..

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Re: date cane query
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2010, 12:37:41 PM »
Hi Jean

The paperweight is 100% Murano, probably mid 20th C.

I feel that a price of £40 would be a better deal for the seller than for the buyer. 

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Re: date cane query
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2010, 01:00:52 PM »
Thank you Alan..ill give it a miss then.. :wsh:

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