Topic: Venetian Fishy?

[dinklepip]

9.5" fishy, which has a Salviati look about it.  Don't think it is that old though as the base has no scratches on.  I am assuming Venetian?

[keith]

Not an expert but I'd say Murano and the folded foot looks like a Salviati (probably) piece I have

[TxSilver]

Definitely Venetian. Probably 19th Century Salviati & Co. There is a similar gold in clear glass fish on page 178 of Osborne's Venetian Glass of the 1890's, Salviati at Sanford University. The one in the book has a serpent handle, but the design of the fish and the curve of the vessel is the same.

[dinklepip]

so I do a Salviati piece then, can't understand why I wasn't outbid on this :hiclp:

[obscurities]

can't understand why I wasn't outbid on this :hiclp:

Sometimes we just get lucky... it is the reward for all of the time we invest and sometimes it just happens.....  It is what will keep you looking!!   

[paradisetrader]

I'm sorry not to be able to agree with the consensus on this one.
I am most disturbed by the use of frit for colour and the opaque yellow of the eye strikes me as a modern colour.
It's my understanding that this style of item has been made almost continuously in Murano for more than 100 years, enjoying a particular revival in the 50s and early 60s. However, for the reasons given I am personally suspicious that this is not a Murano made item at all.
Just to note also that older (say Victorian and thereabouts) pieces of this style should be as light as a feather.

[TxSilver]

Salviati and Barovier (sometimes together) often had color inclusions in their early glass, so this wouldn't be unusual. I do have to say that I often am very hesitant about Venetian glass pieces such as this because they have been emulated so often. Some of their descendents are very good, so I have difficulty distinguishing. Perhaps Alex will be along soon to add an opinion on the age of the glass.

Someone sent me a picture of a similar piece for attribution in an email last night. Her piece was yellow with a serpent handle. But again there was deviation from the picture that I had of the Salviati & Co vessel. It can be very difficult to know if an object is a variation on a theme or if differences indicate a reproduction (or should I say, a piece that is inspired by something that came before).

[dinklepip]

it weighs 550gm Paradise

[dinklepip]

Sometimes we just get lucky... it is the reward for all of the time we invest and sometimes it just happens.....  It is what will keep you looking!!   

I never get lucky though :24: :24:

[dinklepip]

I have my doubts on age though, it can't be that old surely because the base as absolutely no wear at all