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Author Topic: Glass vase "Leichlingen" ID = Gral-Glas, Leichlingen Atelier  (Read 13897 times)

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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 06:20:01 AM »
Ah, I hadn't seen that... I really should go through that database more often. Though it doesn't help if the people at the museum do not know much more than we do (actually, that's something that makes me sad. Germans should be more proud of their 20th century glass and devote a bit more time and resources to it to catalogue it properly).

And yes, mine was unmarked, but I remembered it from this thread. Another one for the 'Oh no! That's not Murano!' display I'm planning for next month :)

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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2011, 08:22:48 PM »
Hey Michael, are you a completist? I just saw an oval version of the same vase being offered on ebay.de (wrongly attributed of course)... (in my case, I'll just stick with the one example I already have :) )
http://cgi.ebay.de/BOHMEN-1960-MASSIVE-AUSGEFALLENE-XL-VASE-RARITAT-/270710421786?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item3f0799391a

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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2011, 08:50:01 PM »
Just a list of facts about this seller:
- his items fetch remarkable prices
- his feedbacks show he´s got a lot of quite regular buyers, especially in his earlier days
- he´s got either problems with his buyers and has to relist numerous items a few weeks
   later, or he´s got a lot of his items twice and thrice
- his feedback list is private concerning the sold items
- he´s got good skills in photo editing
 >:(  :-X
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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2011, 09:14:02 PM »
Well - lots of manipulators around like that, sadly. Then again, while getting a good vase for under 10 euro is a nice bargain, if that happens too often it won't keep sellers in business, and I don't expect them to practically give away their stuff.  I wish people would simply use the clearly visible bottom reserve instead.

I have bought a few items off him, and paid a price I would consider a reasonable auction result given the item. Then again, I never expect to get anything good for less than 10 euro :)

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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2011, 09:51:43 PM »
Astrid, thank you very much for the hint! This oval shaped one is nice as well, but I will stick with my rectangular one.
I have got already too many areas I collect (Czech, Finnish, Riedel), so German glass will only be bought if I come across a nice piece for a nice price.

BTW, whenever I see the buy-it-now-prizes some ebay sellers ask for their items, I wonder if these really sell? For instance a Jachmann WMF vase for around 200 Euro if I remember correctly, or the Hlava cut vases like the one I posted a few days ago, most around 300 Euro  :o
 
Dirk, you are right that this particular seller has nice pics.
And funny descriptions: "Massive Fantastische XL Vase" ;D

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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2011, 05:38:39 AM »
Quote from: rocco on February 22, 2011, 09:51:43 PM
BTW, whenever I see the buy-it-now-prizes some ebay sellers ask for their items, I wonder if these really sell? For instance a Jachmann WMF vase for around 200 Euro if I remember correctly, or the Hlava cut vases like the one I posted a few days ago, most around 300 Euro  :o

And they don't even look at each other a lot. I've seen the same Jachmann anywhere between 55 and 200 euro for 'buy me now'. I should think the 55 will sell eventually, the last two Jachmann pieces I bid on went around 50. But 200? Nah. Too many cheaper alternatives. Then again, some internet shops that somehow manage to exist ask that sort of prices as well. Some collectors with oodles of cash and apparently not enough time to look around might not be bothered by a high price like that.

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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 09:13:59 PM »
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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2011, 09:00:38 PM »
Ah, finally my Gral-glas book arrived today from amazon.de. This vase is featured in them. It was made in 1972, in three varieties (a low oval, a higher oval, and this square one is my guess) and it has 'Atelier Leichlingen' as designer (sadly no further name). Apparently at the time, both Gral-Glas and Leichlingen were used as brands, but at this point in time the original division between which factory should do what had blurred already.

I still have to check out the CD ROM to see if that contains more info, but that will be for another day.

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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2011, 09:11:01 PM »
Will you write a review, Astrid? The book is drop dead gorgeous if you ask me...  :thup:
I´ve found several of my suspicions confirmed and made a few amazing discoveries
as well.
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Re: Glass vase "Leichlingen"
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2011, 09:11:32 PM »
Astrid, could you give me the full title of the Gral-glas book please?  Thank you...  :kissy:
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