Topic: Three wide-based water/lemonade/juice jugs for attribution, please

[chopin-liszt]

I have a jug with matching set of glasses, in a rather dirty sort of smoky amber colour. The jug has a very big round polished pontil mark.

[Frank]

Hillston perhaps, can't get to catalogues right now.

[Chris Harrison]

In this pattern I have

- this same jug (flint) - 35 fl oz/1 litre to brim
- 1 large, inward-tapering jug (flint) - 35 fl oz/1 litre to brim
- 1 small, inward-tapering jug (flint) - 12 fl oz to brim
- 4 small tankards (blue, green, brown, amber) - 12 fl ozs to brim
- 4 large tankards (flint, green, brown, amber) - 20 fl ozs to brim
- 1 small inward-tapering posy vase with a 6-pointed crimped rim (flint)

None of them is marked.

I'm fairly sure that one of these large jugs was on display in the Red House Glass Cone (the old Stuart works).  Doesn't mean it's by Stuart, of course.     Like Nigel, I would have expected at least one marked item somewhere down the line.

See my comment on
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,24718.0.html
if you haven't already...

[nigel benson]

Frank - Surely Hill Oustan were simply retailers of other makers glass and not manufacturers in their own right? Certainly a large number of their illustrations within the glass sections can be attributed to various well known makers.

Bernard - You also seem to be assuming that, either, only one chair made these pieces, or, that all information was passed from one chair to another in order to ensure consistancy. Otherwise, how would the consistancy of the use of 'V' or 'A' examples that you refer to be achieved? Whilst this might not have been the case, amongst other things, it takes no account of the famed competition between chairs which would suggest information was unlikely be shared. Superficially, it is therefore quite possible that inconsistancy can occur within one factory.

Comment from anyone who has worked in this situation would be valuable here

Since I think you've lost me :huh:  

I've proved that these jugs (and tankards and tumblers) don't exist!

[ju1i3]

I saw one of these in aqua today at the Islington antiques market in Camden Passage. It was priced £14. 

[keith]

...and here' another...

[Frank]

After a quick leaf through the shape appears mostly post WW2 in Hill Ouston catalogues, mostly under English Crystal. Both cut, plain and transfer decorated and in a variety of sizes.

Nigel - somewhere I recall reading that Hill Ouston did buy a glassworks at some point. Probably in a Gazette so this will surface again in time.