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Czech Knobs, Nipples, Bumps.....and ?? Label
antiquerose123:
--- Quote from: astrid on December 29, 2010, 11:35:15 PM ---
I'm still disappointed the word 'Moser' didn't fit the ER. The spacing of the letters was perfect for a 5 letter word as well.
Astrid
--- End quote ---
;) ;)
You know, I was sure of that too, as I even had measured the spaces for everything from the line ER, and you are right too -- I figured a 5 letter word SHOULD have been there too. You are not alone on this. I laid down a paper against it to measure the width of each letter too ----- and I agree. I should be a 5 letter word, for lenght, and giving the same spacing at the end...
I think that is why I am losing sleep over this one......as I can not find a label like this at all, nor can I find a finish like it (the gold) so I am at my wits end here..........BUT I totally agree with you on the 5 letter word WOULD fit there. Maybe it is a rare label ??? or such a short run label, it history has been lost.
--- I agree with you totally Astrid !!!!
antiquerose123:
:hi:
I have just spent another like 2 hours :thud: looking at this label with different source lights (top bright, underneath label, UV light, side lighting) to try to figure some more on this. I again used a magnifying glass, and found a couple small edges that I turned back with the sharp end of a Pin (Boy, I feel like a surgeon here.....LOL). I have also taken (tried) to take some closer shots yet of the letters I think I see use the magnifying glass....I (might) have stumbled (or figured) out a couple more -- but I would like your opinions on it -- so thus the larger/closer pics. Forgive me, but this is really driving me NUTS!! As stated before, 5 letters in the top would fit (such as the word Moser). I enclose a little piece of paper to show you why the top word HAS to be 5 letter long, as that would center the word at both ends too. Excuse my rough showing here -- but you get the drift.
Also, upon squinting my eyes a zillion times in the Magnifying glass.......it appears that I (think) I can make out a couple other letters now also.....or make out what they *should* or *might* be...
I also looked hard to see if IF the label might have been Gold and Red, with the Gold wearing off first --- but I see no remnants at all of Gold, so it must be Silver and Red. (Just checking all the options, or the possibilities.....that is all) while squinting doing this.
__?_?_ ER
____?_____N
(Another *N* here -- see pic below to see what I mean)
____AI____NS
MADE IN
CZECHOSLOVAKIA
The two RED letter here, I think I can make out to be that. I am Sure the one is an *A*, and the other one you can see a small tail like this *|* so it could ONLY be the Bottom part of a.........F, l, P, T, Y.
So I tried these combos here of:
AF_ _ NS
AI_ _ NS
AP_ _ NS
AT_ _ NS **
AY_ _ NS
....and the only one of the above that made any sense would be the AT_ _ NS (to me) IMHO....like a word nations, or something...
So anyways, I do do those crosswords puzzles, and cryptograms puzzles....and have been trying to fill in the blanks here of WHAT it could say. I am only Assuming this as an educated *guess*, and PUTTING WORDS IN that I think could fit -- and by no means do I have any proof this is what it says -- as I am just trying to figure out a puzzle, or a cryptogram.
Anyways, I have came down to this Possibility (or something like it) so please do not laugh at me.....and I am certain that this (might) also say Moser. So this is the Cryptogram that I have tried to *guess* could say something like ??:
MOSER
PREMIER
GLASS IN
ALL THE NATIONS
MADE IN
CZECHOSLOVAKIA
So please do not laugh, as I have been just trying to figure out ****WHAT**** it could say given the letters I believe I can make out.....and take a look at the closer pic I have attached to see if you can see what I think I see ???
This is just a wild guess like doing a cryptogram.....and nothing concrete.....just guessing, and trying to fill in the blanks. I still do think this is (89 %) says Moser at the top....unless anyone can direct me to another glass naming in ER that has 5 letters in it.
?????????????????????????? :spls: ??????????????? :spls2:
(.......Please do not laugh at me for trying......I am a Scorpio, and I like a mystery......)
antiquerose123:
???
Using a cryptogram service on the net was typing some letter combos in -- and I think the word above *Made in Czechoslovakia* could also be the following Word: CREATIONS. As that word would also fitin there -- I think, IMHO. Just me having a Monologue here with myself throwing ideas around -- as I do not know much about Czech Glass here. So any Help -- Would Help. The Fact the label in Real, and does Exist --- so must be for something, or someone. Foil label....is that an older label? Crown on top mean anything? Saying MADE IN mean anything?? Could the surface of the glass vase be a Special Glass Gold Paint (????) fired on ??? As I am seeking help from those that Know Czech here. Help ??? I can not be the only person in the Whole World that has this label ???......or then....if so, could it have been made Special?? I doubt it.... :-\
I even looked around about Czech Pottery to see if I could find any *clues* on anything about the label. I have no idea.....digging here.
Can anyone else see on the newest, newest, newest Close-up posted here (one post above this), the other letters I mention that you can see where I bent back some of the small foil edges. Anyone.....
______ER
______N
CREATIONS
MADE IN
CZECHOSLOVAKIA
:thud:
TIA -- this one is driving me :ho:, as I do not even know how to describe it goggling...
langhaugh:
Rose:
I'm with Astrid on this one. I would look for a company that imported Czech glass rather a Czech company for the source of this label. The fact that non of the Czech experts have recognized the label tells you something, I think. I looked through Langhamer, who has the biggest collections of Czech labels I've seen, and he had nothing that resembled this label. While Langhamer doesn't have all Czech labels, he seems to have the most common ones.
Here's a good example of the Canadian company's label. http://www.rubyplaza.com/shops/tannerycreek-rp/iteml/RL3688#pic1
If you bought your price from the States, it might be worth searching for US importers of Czech glass.
Happy New Year and good luck,
David
antiquerose123:
Thanks langhaugh:
Okay, but I could use some help then trying to find the importer for this label -- if it is an import label. Then what is the ID for the Vase? As the vase would be one thing -- but then the importer label would be another (right)? So I could use a little help on both -- and even the finish on it, I can't find much either.
I just need help.... :X:
Happy New Year to you David, and all the Rest of the Members too!!
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