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Art Deco green vase red 'flame' splotches - Schneider
flying free:
I just checked back and I've been researching this vase since Stephen posted it in 2010. So 15 years. I can't thank you enough.
I also found a link to the one with the turnover rim (signed SCHNEIDER) although all others I've linked to have disappeared unfortunately:
http://ancientpoint.com/inf/93475-french_cameo_glass_art_deco_vase_schneider_mushroom_red_green_france_paris.html
It doesn't appear in the Stefania Zelasko page linked picture but it's the same decor as mine.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cqwAAOSwp95oD5et/s-l1600.webp
flying free:
and adding this one for interest. Its hard to see if the rim is cut rather than firepolished but this shape does not appear in the WMF book (Burschel/Scheiffele).
The interest is in the beehive foot/bottom half of the vase. It seems to be a device used in the Vineta-Kristall range from Josephinenhutte:
https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/index/4051-wmf-wurttembergische-metallwarenfabrik-glass-makers/
The decor is a different effect to mine and some of those in the page from the Zelasko book. The similarity is in the colours and the beehive device.
flying free:
Information here on the Pfohl famiy.
Erwin Pfohl :
https://www.pfohl-glaeser.com/familientradition
Part quote
'In 1929, he worked as a designer for the Josephinenhütte (Josephinenhütte), then as a lighting consultant for the Reich company in Berlin, and subsequently as a painter and designer for the Rachmann brothers in Haida. In 1939, he succeeded his father in the glass-painting workshop and assumed responsibility for the 15 painters employed in his father's glass-making business'.
I don't have the Stefania Zelasko book unfortunately. If anyone does I'd be grateful to know whether there is any other information on this Vineto-Kristall range :)
Greg I see what you mean about the colour comment. I've cut and pasted them side by side with the book photograph and mine looks to be the same colour as the mid green one top row second in from right.
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Greg.:
I did also wonder if your example had a similar colouring to the piece you refer to in the book photograph.
Your example also seems to show similar type bubbles to the eBay vase looking closely.
Nice to finally know who made these as they are interesting pieces.
flying free:
This is the link to the one I meant to paste - blue with red and the beehive foot - curious design and not in WMF book:
https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/item/1410987-wmf-ikora-blue-and-red-bubble-glass-vase-circa-1930-20-cm-high/
Mine has similar bubbles to the ebay one and the striped effect. I wonder how they achieved that? Some form of picking colour up on a ribbed mold? or blowing into a ribbed mold and then casing perhaps?
I can't recall seeing any of the other pieces in the Zelasko book except for one maybe, the white one with browny splotches on the left of the picture. I think I've seen that somewhere.
OOH look here - a good photograph of pieces from the Vineta-Kristall range from Josephinenhutte from the George Eastman Museum:
https://collections.eastman.org/objects/26986/arrangement-of-vineta-kristall-josephinenhutte-ag-in-seles;jsessionid=BD57D9CA1EC595889D03DE3C1AFB31CE?ctx=45d0c406-f2bf-4c0c-bd6a-0d8d66506713&idx=22
What is amazing is that the photograph is dated c. 1925.
Source: Photograph taken of a collection of Vineta-Kristall Josephinenhutte by Dr Arthur Traube.
Some information about Dr Arthur Traube here - b. Berlin March 8th 1878. Died 1948:
https://www.nytimes.com/1948/07/17/archives/dr-arthur-traube-i.html
Now you can see that the dekor on mine is the same green colour and dekor as the vase at the back and the bowl at the front :) :) I'm so excited to finally have an identification!
Of interest re comparing competitors - The history of WMF is here: Shows glass making starting 1883-
https://aboutwmf.com/en/history/
I think the Ikora range was launched in the 1920s - there are catalogue photographs in the book from 1928.
btw I have come across another piece purporting to be from the Vineta-Kristall range. The dekor is nothing like my vase as far as I can see.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ekMAAOSw99Zm~pvm/s-l1600.webp
My vase, and I think all the other pieces, has a pontil mark and a firepolished rim.
However there is some information on this piece? I think? here:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/81417-unsung-heroes-of-glass-2-erwin-pfohl
I am certain though that my vase is exactly the same as, and from the range photographed by Dr Arthur Traube as shown in my link above from the George Eastman Museum.
Curious then - the piece referred to in the ebay listing was translated as
'A specimen is also located in the Passau Glass Museum in Germany. This is the only example of this series we have ever seen outside of a museum.'
Is it possible the one in the Passau is not from the Vineta-Kristall Josephinehutte range? I'm absolutely certain mine is and likewise the green one on ebay.
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