Topic: Sabino ashtray history

[tortentaumel]

The unpolished one doen't have the same smooth surface like the other one. Colourwise they appear pretty much the same.
All edges are not quite defined at the unpolished one while the other one has a much clearer contour.
I just wonder why there are so little around. I keep searching them through ebay.com and ebay.fr but since years i haven't found them.
The unpolished one i found through a "petit annonce" in France just recently and i payed 130 Euro for it. The other one i bought about 12 years ago in Zurich from an art deco shop and it was in perfect condition when i bought it. My wife dropped it from the top of our piano when she was sweeping dust
and it fell on the marble floor. Damned. Now i would like to find at least one of them which is in mint condition and polished.
If anyone would like to sell one or knows where i can find one, i would really appreciate to send me an offer.

Thanks for all the answers so far and please excuse my terrible english.
Regards
Torsten

[chopin-liszt]

If you look at the first image, where the two pieces are side by side, you can see that the parts for laying the cigarette on (at each of the corners) have had the surface of the sides polished flat on the one on the left, while there are still raised curves from the moulding on this part on the one on the right.

Sadly, big businesses are not often interested in their history - just making money now and in the future.
I'm sorry you had such a dismissive response.

While your unpolished one may have been taken from the rubbish and deemed trash, clearly, if they are no longer making these, there is a limited supply and it does have value in the secondary market - to you personally and, I imagine, to many other Sabino collectors.

One person's trash is somebody else's treasure! :thup:

[tortentaumel]

----- Original Message -----
From: Art Glass
To: Torsten Goddon
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Per E-Mail senden: IMG_0005, IMG_0001, IMG_0002, IMG_0003, IMG_0004


Why do you accuse the messenger  for answering your question the best he can?,
Is it because you do not like the answer?
Is it because you do not appreciate the time spent for answering you with courtesy?
Your ash tray is trash.
It is what it is.
Sir! we have been the world's Sabino distibutor since 1963.
About all the sabino sold in the world  comes from us.
Wehter you buy from us or not  your Sabino will still comes from us trough a dealer who buys it  from us.
The big difference will the quality and authenticity.
We do not, I repeat do not sell trash,  all trash is destroyed.
It is what it is





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From: "Torsten Goddon" <torsten.goddon@bluewin.ch>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:09 AM
To: sabino@mail.sabinoartglass.com
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I actually considered to buy a "birth of a star" object through you but since i have to realize that you are rather impatient and uncaring about collectors questions and needs, i will have to manage my interest for antique Sabino glass via different sellers.
 
Regards
 
Torsten Goddon
Muehlegasse 5
8114 Dänikon
Switzerland
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Glass
To: Torsten Goddon
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: re: Per E-Mail senden: IMG_0005, IMG_0001, IMG_0002, IMG_0003, IMG_0004


Hello,
This Ash tray  did not pass the  quality control and did not pass the test of approval.
It is unfinished  and unpolished and was to be discarded for some unkown reason it was gathered from the trash bin.

[tortentaumel]

the text above shows how sabino art glass Texas is communcating with collectors.
No comment

[chopin-liszt]

Very sad.

Even sadder - it's added a sour taste to my little Sabino butterfly - my one example of this maker, who I had liked very much for a long time. I won't be getting any more.

[tortentaumel]

i think we need to differenciate between the american company and Ernest Marius Sabino.
I would like to believe that he himself never would have made such harsh comments.
It might have to do with the location of Sabino in Texas. It's just a different culture than
the europeean art of communication. But i must admit that i was pretty upset about their
statements. I still love opalescent Sabino stuff and i own quite a number of objects.
Sabino america cannot spoil my desire for the antique objects ,prefarably made before 1963.

 

[chopin-liszt]

I agree completely. I have always preferred Sabino to Lalique  - I like Barolac and Jobling too.
I've got a thing about opalescent glass, but I don't collect it.

Now I don't know when my butterfly was made! It is marked "Sabino France" in flowing script, I can't tell if it is engraved or etched.
Surely it wouldn't be marked "France" if it was made in america?

[tortentaumel]

I don't know about the sign america uses, but there are Sabino France and Sabino Paris signed objects.
The once with Sabino Paris sign where made for the french market to my knowledge whilst the France ones
where to be exported to america. I also have this thing about opalescent glass and it's effect when sun shines through.
I can't look away from it and it fascinates me every time.

[tortentaumel]

this is my little collection of opalescent glass. Some of it is contemporary stuff but i don't care.
I used to have more Sabino objects especially trays but they got smashed by our kittens.

[chopin-liszt]

Lovely - it's like having your own private sunset - those few precious moments, just before the sun really vanishes.

  The joy of felines!

What you need is stuff called "Museum Gel". It will "stick" your glass to the surface it is sitting on.

Or train your kittens better! When we got our newest cat, I placed lemons all around my glass shelves, particularly near the bottom.

Then I just ignored her if she went near them - (although my heart was in my mouth!).
Now she pays no attention to it at all, even though it would be an adventure playground for her.
But she's not a fancy pedigree with their sometimes difficult behaviours - just a "wee moggie".