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Offline bOBA

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bit of fun mystery glass
« on: April 28, 2011, 01:04:40 PM »
Hello GMB! I thought I would post an odd piece of glass I have that I have recently discovered an attribution for. It is a small vase, about 16cm tall made of very thin glass,

Robert (bOBA)

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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 01:18:37 PM »
what is the age of this piece Robert, or will that give the game away?   I think it looks medicinal or for scientific use, but no water staining, so guess a 'dry' use.

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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 03:18:47 PM »
Reidel?
(on the basis of thin glass and elegant design)
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 04:35:08 PM »
nice to have some ideas... I do not normally collect this style of glass so when it arrived I was amazed how light it is, it must be under 300g and I was amazed how thin the glass is. Although wine glass in style, up close, it seems also of laboratory quality glass... so both comments have spotted some attributes...  I think Reidel is maybe within 200km approximate distance from the place this was made. I think it was designed in about 1950.... though 1957 has also been recorded.. a small vase ..

Robert





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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 04:46:58 PM »
200 km from Kufstein puts you in Northern Bavaria, southern Bohemia, Switzerland or northern Italy. 

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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 05:19:23 PM »
Wild guess -- Zwiesel?

Michael

BTW, it is Riedel and not Reidel :)

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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 05:32:27 PM »
 :pb:
I even deliberately changed it to the wrong spelling. :-[
I shall try to remember in future it IS the same as my shoes (Rieker) and not the opposite.  :spls:

1957 was a very good year.  :smg:  I appeared in 1957.
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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 05:51:38 PM »
 I believe it is one of these four  ..... "Northern Bavaria, southern Bohemia, Switzerland or northern Italy." But perhaps within 220km would be more accurate... We can end this game quite soon I think! Not Zweizel, or even correctly, Zwiezel! (I get "ie" "ei" mixed up a lot, the word "receive" always seems a permanent spelling curse). It is by no means typically the type of glass that we would most commonly associate with the most famous style(s) of the factory in question ... so it may seem a slight trick ... It is not so very far away from my normal collecting region, zone etc .... Such glass may even have contained locally sourced mineral spring water...



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Re: bit of fun mystery glass
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 07:09:51 PM »
Moser.

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 08:21:49 PM »
Ah, yes, a solution! It was apparently made according to Czech Glass Review, in 1950, shown in a 1950 copy of Czech Glass Review, describing it as being made at the former Moser glassworks in Carlsbad. It appears in Raban. J.  (1963) in his Modern Bohemian Glass book, fig 18, "produced by the Moser-Carlsbad  Glassworks, 1957. This can be read online at Jindrich's great site www.cs-sklo.cz

I wanted to be sure, so I contacted Moser, whose helpful website person Veronika confirmed it:

"I have forwarded the pictures to the identification department and today the specialist has informed me that this glass piece was produced by Prof. Liskova. She used to have her own studio, where she made different glass pieces and this even seams to be one of them. For Moser glassworks Mrs. Liskova designed glass animals only, which were also produced here and sold with the Moser signature."

So the piece falls into the uncertain period of the glassworks site, that modern day Moser (kind of half) recognises!

Also, the Corning Glass museum site notes "From 1949 to 1961, she designed table wares for the Moser Glassworks in Karlovy Vary. In the early 1960s, she began to make flameworked utilitarian pieces in borosilicate glass. Her work evolved into abstract and figural sculptures. Lišková was the first flameworker to use borosilicate glass for large-scale sculpture." This vase certainly fits with her table wares production period and was certainly designed by 1950 as proven by the Czechoslovak Glass Review image.


So a happy ending, Ivo gets the imaginary rosette and (unfortunately) imaginary champagne for uncovering the location of fabrication .............


Robert


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