Topic: Chrysoprase? Bohemian or French? Uranium green opaline perfume bottle

[Paul S.]

God said let there be light.......and the GMB was   -  it worked.

[Paul S.]

thanks for correcting my link 

[Anne]

because you had no space at either end of the URL Paul. There was a : in front of it and .... after it. URLs like the smiley codes need one blank space either side of them to make them work. HTH

[flying free]

Ok, thank you all for your responses and help    
Sue I like your thinking re the chemists bottles.  I was also thinking that the little opaline rectangular boxes with hinged lids were also very much in vogue and a square shaped bottle would sit better with those as a set rather than a round bottle.
So... my initial thoughts were could it be Harrachov Chrysoprase or Baccarat Chrysoprase hence my question about Bohemian or French.  
But then looking through the net, I thought if it were Baccarat would it not be marked in some way at all, if they marked the stopper then surely they would have marked it Baccarat somewhere?  Much Baccarat does appear to be marked, but I wonder is it all marked?  
Then, having done a bit of searching I did find perfume bottles in this exact same shape body with the cut sides and that appear to be the same or very similar size to my bottle (difficult to be exact because I don't know whether they are measured with their (different to mine) stoppers or not).  My bottle is 11.5cm to top of neck and just over 15cm to top of stopper.  The ones I've seen say they measure 13cm which they would be, with a flat stopper in, I guess if the bottles were 11.5cm.  The stopper is a perfect colour match and perfect fit so I'm sure it is a match and there is a minute number 10 engraved on the inside rim of the collar of the bottle (thanks Paul, for making me double check).   However they appear to all have some ormolu decoration on them (the stoppers are ormolu decorated as well).  They are all marked attibuted as French (but not Baccarat) and I wondered could the glass could actually be Bohemian, but then I surmised that for the moment no,  I have no reason so far to believe they wouldn't be French made opaline with ormolu.
The ones that are attributed as Bohemian green opaline appear to have lots of gold decor on them, as opposed to ormolu on plain opaline.  So for the moment, I'm thinking not Bohemian perhaps.  
The pontil mark is beautiful, round, polished beautifully and perfect.  Would glass made in Italy or Sweden have that kind of pontil mark? (forgive me my ignorance - this is just my thoughts).
Which brought me back round to France (shape and immaculate pontil mark) or possibly England..  and of course now Ivo has added in Belgium.
My question about the dates of it was because the pieces I have seen in the same shape and similar size are all ormolu decorated and dated mid 1800's - late 1800's.  I just wondered whether it might be later because it is plain and undecorated.
So would the numbering of the stopper and neck indicate a particular country?  I have to say they don't look like European script, they look like English script to be honest *the number 1's I mean.  so could it be an English piece?  if so would Richardson's be a possible?
So that's where I 'm at so far    and possibly that is far as I will get    I'll let you know if I discover anything more (highly unlikely I know).
Many thanks for replying and helping.
m   P.S. it is in perfect condition  :hiclp:

[flying free]

I have found some interesting information here
http://reviews.ebay.com/Dating-Vintage-Baccarat-Perfume-Bottles_W0QQugidZ10000000003949353

This is information about dating Baccarat perfume bottles.
The bits that are interesting to me as stated in this article are:

1) It says that Baccarat first started making perfume bottles for various companies in the 19th century and that the bottles had a plain, chemists style look to them, to leave room for labels.  This would tie in with the style of my bottle.
2)  that the same shaped bottles were used for different perfume companies and actually says e.g the number 10 (my bottle is marked 10) bottle was used for both D'Orsay & Houbigant. I guess that is where them putting their own labels on comes in.
3) It says bottles were not always marked (with Baccarat mark) and only regularly marked after 1936
4) It says they numbered the base of their bottles (mine is marked on the collar not the base though) and the stopper as a dating system for the bottles and that the numbering system they have listed in this article corresponds to those found in the reference book 'Baccarat Les Flacons a Parfum/The Perfume Bottles' by Compagnie des Cristalleries de Baccarat (1986).
5) It says number 10, which my bottle is marked with (they list it though as 010 but I presume it actually means 10) would be 1907/1923 for Houbigant,1900/1908 for Victor Vaissier, and for D'Orsay in 1912

And this is a link to a perfume bottle of what looks to be the same shape body but has ormolu mounts and stopper
http://www.alexiaamatoantiques.com/sales.asp?stock=S10

m

[Ivo]

Puzzled by the list of numbers here. To me, if you have corresponding numbers on bottle and stopper it is a tie number - so you can see the stopper actually goes with the bottle. Never heard this type of numbering was used for other purposes. But seeing you only have one number....

Baccarat, incidentally, is rarely marked.

[flying free]

Ivo I have two numbers  - one inside the neck of the bottle and one on the base of the stopper.  But I see what you mean, one isn't in the right place
m

[Ivo]

they must be tie numbers, then.

[flying free]

yes I agree, but can I knock out Baccarat by the definition given on the link then?
m

[chopin-liszt]

I reckon forget the numbers completely, sorry - the only thing you can tell from them is that the stopper was made as a perfect married match for the bottle. (the tie Ivo is referring to)

It has been common practise to mark married bottles and stoppers with numbers for a very long time indeed - and it cannot be tied to any maker or country or manufacturer - I don't think - somebody who knows more about old glass and the hundreds of makers might know different - it could be some specific makers didn't, I don't know.