Topic: German crystal label - ST in a G?

[astrid]

I saw this vase on ebay, and because I have a similar one. I was happy when this particular version was showing a label. Only - I have no clue to which German glasworks it might point to. From the way it was made, I assumed up till now that it was Marsberger Glaswerke (because of how the top of the vase looked).

It's a silver coloured, long label in a sort of scroll style, saying "Kristall Handarbeit" and a logo of the letters ST in a G.

Any ideas what ST in a G could stand for (the G probably for Glaswerke or Glashütte)?

Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.de/70er-Jahre-Design-Objekt-Glas-Kristall-Vase-B-/270758931095?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item3f0a7d6a97

Astrid

[antiquerose123]

   ??   ?

NOT RELATED to your vase ......but I did find *another* glass maker that uses those initials of  TSG   

You can see it here:  http://toyo.sasaki.co.jp/e/company/history.html

This is unworthy info related to YOUR vase, but thought it was funny that I did find those initials used somewhere else by another glass company.

 That is all..

?? :thud:?

[antiquerose123]

Still looking

STG might mean (Saint Louis Glassworks) or GST (Glasswork of Saint Louis)

All guesses..

I am not finding anything

[Ivo]

STG might mean (Saint Louis Glassworks) or GST (Glasswork of Saint Louis)

No way. Could be a Gistl label?

[astrid]

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

I really think it's German, which both the text of the label and the style of the solifleur vase seemt to suggest, so Saint Louis doesn't seem to fit (PS - from using the German language it could also be Austrian, Luxemburg or Swiss, of course).

The only Gistl labels I've seen look different, and they used the GG letters at that time (opposite one another), for Gistl Glas (here's an example of that label, scroll down:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Vase-Glasvase-Gistl-Glas-50er-Jahre-Fifties-/140528949876?pt=Design_Stil&hash=item20b82d9a74).

I'm sure they could have used different style labels, but usually they don't change their initials, so I'm not convinced Gistl fits either.

Astrid

[Wuff]

https://www.glasmarken-lexikon.de/marken.php?k=Buchstaben+ohne+Umrahmung%3BA-Z&b=stg
shows your logo - but only (paying) "premium users" can access the company info.

[KevinH]

I suppose, in theory, we could be considering a company formed between 1945 and 2006, since the book version of Glasmarken Lexikon covered 1600 - 1945 [although there are some entries in the book for marks / labels after 1945] and the online version covers 1600 - 2006. :huh:

[astrid]

Thanks for mentioning the possibility, Wuff.

So far, membership doesn't look like something I'm willing to do. They might have this one, but that would be a first in over 10 searches I tried of unknown labels, sigs and marks. No use paying for access to something so incomplete.

Astrid

[Wuff]

I suppose, in theory, we could be considering a company formed between 1945 and 2006, ...

and

... They might have this one, but that would be a first in over 10 searches I tried of unknown labels, signs and marks. No use paying for access to something so incomplete.

I had another look at their web page, and their (partially difficult to read) instructions. Apart from guests they have three categories of users:

Registered users (free of charge) get a little extra info. So I can now tell that the logo was taken from a label of around 1967 - which doesn't tell us anything about the time of foundation of the company, of course.

Quota users (€ 10) will also get the name of the company - for up to 20 marks within a year: only if you actually request the info for a mark you have found, 1 search will be deducted from the quota. In other words, if you find 20 marks within one year, and request the related info, you pay 50 cents per mark ... becomes more expensive if the quota is not used up.

Premium users (€ 66 per year) get unlimited access with additional info, e.g. links to all other marks used by any given company. This will only be of interest for the "professional", I guess.

Just a thought - based on another topic I'm interested in - genealogy: several Swiss church records are available on CD, which are quite expensive, far too expensive for the occasional limited search. Several researchers have bought these CDs for parishes where they research a lot - and offer lookups (free of charge). Is there anyone on GMB, who already is a quota (or premium) user - or would become a quota user, to offer something similar? Whoever is interested in using this offer, would have to search for the mark himself (as this is the time consuming part) and submit the URL where the mark was found - so offering this service would only be a few mouse clicks (plus the € 10, of course). Refunding such small amounts of money is not worth the effort - so users of the church record lookup are invited to donate a small amount to a good cause.
Whilst helping collectors, this would also be advertising for the web page - as some collectors, after seeing a few examples of their info (without paying) may then decide to become paying users themselves.
What do GMB members feel? Will 20 marks per year found from the 15'000 marks (of 11'000 artists or companies), to make this worthwhile?

[pamela]

Astrid, here is a similar design attributed to V. Hanus

Is Jindrich back, please?

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