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Princess:
Hi, I'm new here. I've been trawling the net for hours trying to get information, I wonder if anyone can help me?
I've got a small glass box with a nude female lying down on the top. I've got as far as finding out that it is the same design as a Desna, small meditation box, based on a pattern by Heinrich Hoffman. The thing is, the Desna is supposed to be signed on the bottom, and mine doesn't have that. It has a small butterfly etched into the underside of the top, and it looks exactly like this
http://www.timelesspath.com/JPGs/figurines/80043C.htm

so is it a copy? I know that the Hoffman signature was a butterfly, but I don't know where it was placed, or if Desna use the signature butterfly as well as the Hoffman mould.
Clare[/url]

Cathy B:
This is one for Pamela I think, but you might also try asking Siegmar Geisselberger from www.pressglas_korrespondenz.de

Lustrousstone:
Welcome to the GMB. Sounds to me much more like yours is an original Hoffman than a modern copy. What colour is the glass? Is it very clear and bright like modern glass or does it have a very slight discoloration? Is there any age-related damage, tiny chips, scratches on the bottom? A picture of the original would help. See the glass forum menu for help in posting pics

Cathy B:
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/geisel-schubert-hoffmann-schlevogt-engl.pdf

This link has information on telling the difference. I'm not sure that all Desna is marked, and I think I read somewhere that the Desna was of much worse quality than the original. All this is retrieved from a very shaky memory - I don't know and wouldn't feel qualified to comment myself, but with luck this page should help.

Anyway, Acrobat reader has crash on my machine so I can't even check for you!

Cheers,
Cathy

pamela:
Hi Clare, welcome to the GMB!

This is my small collection of five, I believe genuine, Hoffmann Gablonz pin dishes. The butterfly mark is visible in the bottom right at about 4o'clock

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/aschenbecher/ascher.html

I'll check my copies of catalogues to find your beautiful box. The style is absolutely Hoffmann.
Pamela

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