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Pinkspoons:
...then what is it? Any ideas anyone?

I'm just separating this optic-rib vase from my Whitefriars thread. It was purchased with a small lot of now identified WF pieces, and it's the same shape/size as a genuine WF optic-rib, but the colour's wrong. There's a fair amount of wear to the base, so it's not a new 'un.

So your guess is as good as mine...!

Pinkspoons:
Is it at all possible that it was a one-off piece for the factory shop / special order? I don't have any experience with optic-ribs, so I can't tell you if the base is right or not, so I'm just grabbing at straws here.  :lol:

Scandi is a possibility, I guess - Strombergshyttan did some pieces in a similar style, so I've read.

roget123:
Hi,
Please tell us what size it is and also why do you think the colour is wrong for WF glass from the pre-war period?

When you run your fingers up and down the vase, do you feel the ribs on the inside or the outside.

Finally, the term optic-ribs when applied to WF, is as far as I can determine from the 'bible' on WF, "Whitefriars Glass" by the Museum of London team, only applies to those Art Noveau glass of Harry Powels from around 1890-1910 give or take smudging of time. What you have is a ribbed vase.

regards Geoff

Pinkspoons:
Hi.

The vase is 6" tall. There are slight undulations on the outside of the vase where the ribbing is, but it is heaviest by far on the interior.

And I just assumed that dark shades of blue was used by WF from the 1960's onwards, as all of the blue pre-war WF (that I've seen) seems to be in the light Sapphire - but I'm far from an expert in this area of glass, so I'm more than willing to be wrong on this one! haha

Thanks for the tip on the optic rib/ribbed vase terminology, though. I'd just seen these vases refered to in a few places as 'optic rib', is all.

vidrioguapo:
These are definitely known as Horizontal optic ribbed vases.  Whitefriars did do a darker blue called Sanctuary Blue from the 1920's - 1940's approx.  But this vase is not Sanctuary Blue. The ribbed method talked about above is a very different type of ribbing - I am not a technician - but
the reference made to page 291 of the MOL book  show vases where you can feel the vertical ribbing quite definitely on the outside of the glass

The horizontal optic ribbing on Nic's vase ( and I have one the same but 8" ) is smooth on the outside and it gently undulates on the inside.  They were made using a roll-mould technique, glass being shaped prior to blowing with the outer surface smoothed as the shape was formed. This style of glass was usuallky cased as well. I haven't got the answer to your vase Nic, or for mine for that matter - the colour is very much a late 60's Whitefriars colour. The shape is a W/.F shape, but it doesn't corralate with the catalogues.  There may be an answer, but I don;t know what it is at this stage.

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