Topic: Greener pressed uranium basket

[Anne]

I just had a quick peek on the Tyne and Wear Museum catalogue and found this entry for the same plate, logged as Moore:
http://collectionssearchtwmuseums.org.uk/#details=ecatalogue.282952

[neilh]

Some of the pressed glass attributions on the V&A website and on the Manchester Art Gallery website are known to be off (even of Manchester pieces) so unless there is source evidence it is difficult to be fully convinced.

Having said that, most of the plates in the PV 1881 catalog are generic, barring a few which they registered in 1873, and a couple that look distinctive enough that one hopes you could pin it to one glassworks, such as this one. Quite a few in the PV catalogue look close or identical to those in the earlier c1870 catalogue from Molineaux Webb. A couple of items look like they could be pre 1840 patterns, before PV opened in 1844.

If it turns out this one is a mould which was made several times over, then I guess we would have to ascribe the plate to Moore or PV and maybe others, if their catalogues had survived. As the moment though, PV is proved and Moore is inferred I would say.

It could also be argued the only plates PV had designed were the ones they registered, and all other moulds were bought in. Difficult to know.

[Anne]

That's useful to know, thank you.  Did you see my reply #19 as well Neil? I did two responses rather than go back and edit the first one, and it wrapped onto the next page of the topic...  #19 references the images in the PGCC booklet Edward Moore unregistered designs c.1870.

[thewingedsphinx]

Thanks Anne/ Neil for your comments, Anne I'm impressed someone else had a copy pamphlet as there are several items and enlarged references at the back.
Still no picture of the green basket. I think I shall take the basket back to my father and place it back on the shelf in front of the 10inch plate and leave it alone.
As quoted in the pamphlet it's a minefield to try and attribute these old designs.

Cheers Mike

[Paul S.]

a reminder to those of us interested in pressed glass, that we should be eternally grateful to those manufacturers who DID Register their designs.

[Anne]

Mike, my pamphlet came as a freebie with the Davidson book I bought, by way of an apology from the PGCC due to the inordinately long delay in posting out my order. It has come in handy a few times for checking things though!

There are a few Edward Moore patterns shown on this page under Supplement to the Pottery Gazette - December 1st 1888: http://www.victorianpressedglass.com/pattern_books.htm along with two catalogues of Sowerby designs (dated 1880 and 1882). Useful to bookmark if you've not already found them.   

Paul, absolutely! And immensely grateful to you for going back to the National Archives and looking them up for us and posting images of the designs. 

[NevB]

Just thought I'd add my two penn'orth with this pair I bought yesterday, I could feel the lozenge mark on one side of the handle but couldn't decipher it. It's good to identify them.

[thewingedsphinx]

I think these two are RD 238105 1870, checkout the gallery pictures for greener baskets, sometimes they have two registration numbers for bowl pattern and handle pattern. Lozenges in these are impossible to read sometimes.
 
Mike

[NevB]

Yes Mike this post confirmed they are RD 238105, after taking another look I can just make out the "C" for 1870 in the right hand part of one lozenge.