Topic: Vaseline Gondola 12.5"

[Frank]

Lazarus & Rosenfeld Ltd were (in 1933) an Export Merchant, (Colonies and USA) based at 3 Bevis Marks, EC3.

[Max]

Thanks for the input.  Yes, I'm beginning to like it now...it's been such an interesting day...and no, I didn't take sarnies, but wish I had.  :wink:

They could be an exporter or merchants, and they were in Bevis Marks.  I've found a couple of documents about them on Google.  I guess the next stop is Companies House.  :roll:

...but would an exporter/merchant register a design?  I suppose it they had a team of designers?

[Lustrousstone]

Jules Lang registered a lot of glass designs and they were importers

[Bernard C]

Max — Congratulations.

It seems to me that you have two routes to finding the mouldmaking glassworks, the set of punches used for the reg. no., and the base stars, both of which can be as individual as fingerprints.

Also, the glass itself may help identify the manufacturing glassworks.

... and your continuing research in the archives may reveal something else registered to the same firm made by a known glassworks.

If you bring it to Cambridge, I will have a close look and see if I can help further.   Have you tried taking a photograph of the number, or of an aluminium foil impression of it?

Christine — Jules Lang were factors, or, in the old sense, manufacturers, i.e. they would take a requirement and get it made, wherever they could get the best deal, not necessarily overseas.    Conversely, take care never to assume without other supporting evidence that a company which described itself as a manufacturer actually made anything.   Burtles Tate would have quite legitimately described themselves as manufacturers of the Percival Vickers cut glass decanters shown in their trade catalogues, as they obtained their manufacture.    All very confusing for the historian!

Bernard C.  

[Max]

Thanks Sid!    :wink:

Bernard, I never considered that that Rd number style could be a deciding factor in attribution.  That's something new for me and really interesting, thank you.  

If I go to Cambridge, I'll bring the (infamous now - lol!) gondola and show you.    Not quite sure how to progress this any further today, i'll have to get my thinking cap on.  

Christine, thanks for your thoughts.  This is all a new area for me and it's good to get discussion going. xx

[Lustrousstone]

Thanks Bernard, I assumed that because I've seen them described as importers that they were just agents rather than commissioners as well

[Frank]

Lazarus and Rosenfeld as Export Merchants operated in reverse to Jules Lang. There is no reason why they too would commission pieces for their overseas clients.

[Bernard C]

Max — See topic A Mystery Art Deco Blackpool Teapot Stand for another example of the importance of knowing your punched lettering fonts.

... and remembering them  :oops:

Bernard C. 

[Max]

:lol: Crumbs Bernard, surely no-one can identify things by the punched font can they?!  That's really going the extra mile...or is there a book published about them?

Well, perhaps that's a job for someone...listing all the punched letter fonts - wouldn't fancy that job myself though...  :shock:

[Bernard C]

... Crumbs Bernard, surely no-one can identify things by the punched font can they?!  That's really going the extra mile...or is there a book published about them? ...

Exactly Chris Stewart's initial reaction to the ridiculous notion that a Fostoria American cube sugar / preserve could have been made by Davidson.   Now, it's in his book, and on his website!

A set of 36+ hardened tool steel punches is or was a considerable investment.   You just get to know them, particularly if you study plinths and reg. numbers.

Bernard C.