Topic: ruby,gold flake vase with opaque flashing

[Lustrousstone]

Dale Tiffany is a red herring because it is extremely unlikely that the company actually manufactures any glass, though it may assemble lamps (read both pages of the other thread. The website uses a a careful selection of vague words) and have items designed in-house made to order. It wouldn't surprise me if your vase was Chinese. The "gold" is not gold, it is copper aventurine.

[scavo]

So, Dale Tiffany is a brand who rebrand items like M&S, IKEA ... the point is to dig that little further to get to the manufacturer.

I think the base of this and Dale Tiffany vase are the thing that set these 2 apart from what we can see.

I don't know and am only taking a guess from a very limited amount of stuff that I have seen with my own eyes: Chinese, like those I have seen in my local indoor market. I went back today and surprise, surprise, they were gone.

There was something similar, on another thread that people thought to be Japanese. I can't remember. I think it was last week and it was aventurine ... will have a look ... scrub that ... misremembered! http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,42110.msg242219.html#msg242219

[Ohio]

To add to Christine's post...Dale Tiffany & for that matter Tiffany & Co. (not to be confused with Tiffany studios) is a Mikasa type operation as they purchase glass from multiple suppliers worldwide & in the majority of cases best of luck trying to attribute most anything they handle to a specific manufacturer.

[Frank]

If the firm is designing the glass then it is the firms glass, if they buy finished products it is the manufacturers design, It must be that way or, for example, all of Dresser's glass is no longer Dresser. As to many later products of Edinburgh Crystal and Waterford were actually made overseas. Then a lot of glass registered in the earlier 20th century by UK factors is often sold under the factors name. It is an added bonus to track the producing factory too, but essentially they were just fulfilling a contract. China remains a red flag to many but is an emerging force in glass under its own banner.

Also as people buy/collect based on design then the age of the piece starts to become less relevant.

[Lustrousstone]

The "brand" thing is fine. Many "branded" glass and china items develop value and collectability in the secondary market. It's the non-exclusive stuff, which may, however, be labelled, that is more problematic. Commissions always have been and always will be bread and butter to manufacturers.

Buy what you like and enjoy. If you can't find a "name" to apply to it, why worry? Look on any extra information as a bonus.