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Author Topic: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris  (Read 4210 times)

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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 08:01:11 PM »
Sue :24: , disembodied eyeballs  :o  
The name could be a variation of Claris but it really does look like Cleris to me the way it's signed  :-\  I've looked up C Leris i.e Leris being the surname and from what I can see that seems to be concentrated in the USA.  So it could originate from there perhaps.
Cleris doesn't seem to feature as a first name anywhere, so either its a spelling error?is that likely? or it's someone whose parents gave her an avant garde name to be different - I like that idea.
Paul,  I'm aware poinsettias  are popular the world over, but in conjunction with the chrysanthemum I was thinking that one possible avenue could be someone had made this with a Victorian 'message' for Christmas ( after what Christine said).  Chrysanthemums were supposed to be for love and faithfulness and the poinsettia would be representative for Christmas so perhaps someone painted it for their husband?
I've also thought it may actually be a tray of some sort rather than a bowl, although the sides are quite high.  It's a large flat piece and would work as a tray.
I've found that a book on painting glass was produced in the 19th century undated, but assumed to be around 1877 apparently:
 â€œPractical Instructions in Enamel Painting on Glass, China, Tiles
etc., " along with  Full Instructions for the Manufacture of the
Vitreous Pigments Required
By Henry James Snell.
Published in London by Brodie & Middleton.

Would anyone have any  thoughts on where the large bowl/tray may have orginated from  glass wise?
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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2011, 06:35:41 AM »
I wasn't saying the bowl was Victorian, just that glass painting was a very popular hobby for a long time (look at its fairly recent revival). The pattern looks more Art Nouveau/Art Deco to me. I'd go with the hobbyist option personally.

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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2011, 08:57:57 AM »
thanks, I'm happy with the hobbyist option which just feels right.  I think the wear on the bowl, and the type of painting and the design, seems to fit with in  Art Nouveau/Art Deco period, so that feels right for now.  I found an interesting article somewhere on line, on conserving old hand painted glass and some info on why it flakes etc.
I am still curious about the bowl itself as it is so enormous.  It weighs 1.4kg and the rim width is 5mm which is quite thick.  It's bevelled so I think not a rubbish piece.  I might try again to look into that more. (pic attached to show side view - although it's slightly distorted the sides are completely upright)
thanks for your help and input  :sun:
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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2011, 09:00:34 AM »
It's very good hobbyist, if that's what it is.  :thup:
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2011, 09:05:36 AM »
 :) thanks Sue
It's one of those pieces (or perhaps it's just my rubbish photography) where I cannot make the photographs do it justice.  It really glows and looks fantastic, partly because of the crackle and varnish effect around the sides and because the painting has been backed so you don't get show through.
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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2011, 09:38:05 AM »
The ladies that could afford such hobbies had plenty of time to become good and often no need or option to use their talents commercially.

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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2011, 11:06:14 AM »
I've just had a very nice email letting me know that Cleris is a Welsh girl's name. 
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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2012, 04:32:07 PM »
Just bumping this if that's ok - I'm not sure the Welsh connection was correct.  I do wonder whether this might be French.  Anyone have any thoughts on the size and shape of this bowl it was clear originally as a blank.
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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2012, 09:43:16 PM »
Should have added that I've found Aeris rather than Cleris, as a French Girl's first name....but how true that is I don't know.
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Re: Large handpainted straight low sided v.large glass bowl signed Cleris
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2012, 11:57:14 PM »
I've now accidentally come across some lamp shades signed Lemiere - one a Plafonnier in a similar vein to Loys Lucha type shades and the other a kind of smaller normal shade in art deco shape.  Both seem to be handpainted glass in the same vein as my bowl, rather than the enamelled fired on type of say Leune/Quenvit.  Anyone come across Lemiere shades before or seen any close up?
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