No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please  (Read 12116 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12754
    • UK
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2019, 08:44:15 PM »
Another type here apparently from a glass house I've never heard of and came across accidentally searching for something else entirely:
Glasshutte Wolterdingen

an example that says it is from there:
https://www.etsy.com/de/listing/664212310/antiker-vintage-paperweight

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Wuff

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1037
    • Scotland's Glass
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2019, 09:53:09 PM »
Another type here apparently from a glass house I've never heard of and came across accidentally searching for something else entirely:
Glasshutte Wolterdingen.
A quick internet search came up with a description of an open air play (https://www.wolterdingen.de/index.php?ka=1&ska=2&idn=336). The review gives some detail: there was a glass house in St.Märgen, in operation 1683-1727. Then the glass makers moved to Wolterdingen.
To my knowledge glass makers would move on to a new location after a few decades, having used up all the wood nearby. So I would assume the glass house in Wolterdingen was given up well before 1800 ... and I don't think the pedestal weight on etsy is that old.
Wolf Seelentag, St.Gallen
Interested in any aspect of Scottish glass? Have a look at Scotland's Glass.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12754
    • UK
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2019, 10:00:04 PM »
Glass horse here in a museum collection from Glashutte Wolterdingen second half 19th century  (scroll down to see horse and id) :

http://www.hvg-dgg.de/museen/franziskaner-museum-villingen.html

Also this on same link:

Kanne, Glashütte Wolterdingen, um 1880-1910

so perhaps in some format a glasshouse in Wolterdingen at least around end 19th century?

Two interesting paperweights on that link at the bottom as well- apparently 2nd half 19th.


Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Anne Tique

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 895
    • Kingdom of Belgium
    • https://www.pinterest.com/annetiquebe/
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2019, 10:36:40 PM »
These items are seen here quite a lot and as mentioned before, often as 'porte-perruque' or wig stands.

I've always thought them to be too low for that and in a book that I have got on Belgian glass, they're listed as 'boules de cheminée', decorative ornaments to put on your chimney breast, preferably a pair, but no function or use besides that..

There's one listed for VSL  Herbatte division, first half of the 20th C, same drop shape but the stem of the foot is slightly different. I can't comment on the colours as it's a black & white image  :-\

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline catshome

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1091
    • Most glass and studio pottery
    • UK
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2019, 02:17:51 AM »
These remind me of glass darning balls, that were made both round and pear, or egg, shaped, with stems to hold.  It would seem a practical idea to add a foot to stop it rolling away.  Just a thought.
Cat 😺

"There is very little knowledge that can't be obtained through effort"  -  Mark Cuban

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12754
    • UK
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2019, 09:02:36 AM »
I think they were just genuinely used as chimney pieces to be fair Catshome - ie. pretty things to stand on a mantlepiece.

I sew.  I can't imagine using this as a darning sock or for anything sewing related at all.  It's heavy for a start but would just tip over if I tried to put something on it.    Wooden darning mushrooms would have been/ can still be much more useful. 

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Anne Tique

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 895
    • Kingdom of Belgium
    • https://www.pinterest.com/annetiquebe/
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2019, 10:33:29 AM »
Interesting suggestion  but would the stem be long enough for a hand to hold onto it?
Wooden mushrooms for darning etc usually only have a handle, not a foot.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline catshome

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1091
    • Most glass and studio pottery
    • UK
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2019, 05:39:16 PM »
It really was just a thought after seeing this

https://www.rubylane.com/item/589310-wth62009-4123/19th-Century-Blown-South-Jersey-Amber

And thinking how impractical it would be to have something glass that could roll off the table, which lead to remembering this thread and thinking a foot would make sense to stand it on when not in use.  The piece in the link is 5.5" high but, if I read it correctly, the handle is only 3.5", so 7" in OP  would appear long enough.  I even thought Wuff's piece with stand could be a stand for the glass darning eggs that do not have handles.

There is a thread here about a darning bulb which appears to have a foot, although there is no profile picture so it's not completely clear.

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=16855.0

Not trying to argue the case for it, but wanted to show the thought process that lead to the suggestion so you won't think I'm completely crazy!  It even crossed my mind that it could have been an end of day piece, using a left over stem from a wine glass and making something useful and decorative to take home.  But I think it was after 4am by then, so I was probably getting a bit carried away.
Cat 😺

"There is very little knowledge that can't be obtained through effort"  -  Mark Cuban

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Wuff

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1037
    • Scotland's Glass
Re: Pedestal paperweight damaged curious to know what it is though please
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2019, 05:55:15 PM »
Glass horse here in a museum collection from Glashütte Wolterdingen second half 19th century (scroll down to see horse and id):
http://www.hvg-dgg.de/museen/franziskaner-museum-villingen.html
Also this on same link: Kanne, Glashütte Wolterdingen, um 1880-1910
I have done a bit more research - and there seem to be two time periods of glass production in Wolterdingen.

1) Glass production has a long tradition in the Black Forest.  The "story" behind the open air play I had mentioned above, falls in this pre-1800 time frame.

2) I have found an article on glass production in Wolterdingen on https://almanach-sbk.de/home-mobil/2-uncategorised/49-almanach1985.html (in German - but if you want to read it, click on "Jetzt im Almanach 1985 blättern!" and then scroll to page 78, includes a few images). According to this, a new glass factory was set up in Wolteringen in 1844. Ownership changed several times, until the factory was finally closed down in 1902.
Wolf Seelentag, St.Gallen
Interested in any aspect of Scottish glass? Have a look at Scotland's Glass.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand