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Red marbled vase with enamel, Loetz Marmoriertes Carneol? or Harrach? other?
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JP there really is no point ;D my collection of decent pieces is so tiny.....whereas my collection of errrhumm, 'learning curve' glass, is rather vast - and bearing in mind I call anything a collection once I have three pieces :24:
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http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/41326-loetz-turmalin-prod-nr-2-536-1902?in=666
Loetz vase here with a number gilded on the base that is a Dekor number.
just adding to the thread with info that may be helpful in the future :) so another example of a Loetz piece that has a decorator mark on the base.
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and here is a Loetz vase signed with 2 sets of numbers including a P - comment indicates that the P may stand for patent
the description in case it disappears in time, says
'Loetz Enameled Bird Vase. Very similar to Alpen Red Decor... c.1893 '(for description of pic again in case it disappears, in my eyes it looks to have a glossy deep dark red surface, not see through really, and is enameled with heavy gold enamelling of a bird and leaves, flowers, branches)
On the bottom it has enamelled numbers 691/1 P.265
http://www.jwartglass.com/sys-catalog_single_details.asp?catid=16517&categoryID=4992&category=Y&seq=2&PageID=128532&SiteID=34884
Edited to add later:
but... at the bottom of that link it says see Loetz Bohemian Glass 1980-1940 (sic) for a similarly enamelled piece. Out of curiosity I looked at that page in Truitts - it's the Harrach section and I couldn't see a similar piece. I then turned the page to page 56 and there is a vase (different decor, different shape) there also under Harrach that does have quite remarkably similar gilded enamel decoration. So can it be the same decorator for a Harrach and a Loetz piece? I presume it can?
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edit to above post - I meant to say the reference says to look at page 54, and also to add that the book referred to is not the Truitt book, but I just looked in it out of curiosity as it's my 'new' purchase :)
The enamelling is similar on the Harrach vase but not identical. However I guess this doesn't help tease out whether or not mine is one or t'other conclusively anyway. But it does show that Loetz vases did have the enamelled numbers on the base.
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and is confirmation also that the letter P is shown enamelled on the base of some Loetz vases along with numbers. I wonder if the numbers could be the production number and/or the reference for the enamel decor then?
:) I know, I'm talking to myself at the moment, but I don't want to lose the references and my train of thought ;D and I can't afford to buy the books to check lol
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