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Red marbled vase with enamel, Loetz Marmoriertes Carneol? or Harrach? other?

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azelismia:
and here is one more on collectors weekly. I need to update my website again. I don't have this up yet. This one has the full Harrach marking plus a p.xxx mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JEMWN8SKJg

LOL that was an uncalled for jack horkheimer roll on my part. :)

here's the real link.

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/74080-harrach-thistle-vase

flying free:
wrong link?  :) m

azelismia:
real link added LOL

flying free:
 ;D
thank you for taking the time to do that.  You've been really helpful.
 I love looking at your site as a reference as your collection is amazing. 
 You have far more references to hand and a much greater experience of handling and seeing a huge range of glass than I do and you may well turn out to be right  :)

I'm still missing the final link to confirm the id of my vase though  :-[  I need to find a vase that has the mark enamelled in the same way and is the same shape. (obviously it would be perfect to also find one in the same decor but that's probably stretching it).

I've found one that looks as though it might be the same type of enameling to do the mark as the one on mine here (see link). It's a vase 37 pictures down on the left hand side, tall dark iridescent vase with pretty trailed flowers and leaves on it - it doesn't have a definitely confirmed id though -
https://sites.google.com/site/bohemianglassandmore/harrach
and also the dark blue cobalt one with handles on the right hand side where the enamel of the mark looks very similar to mine and it has the propellor mark.

 I've also found one id'd as Loetz Marmoriertes with some enamelling on that matches mine, but obviously that might turn out to be Harrach I suppose.   I'm a bit bemused, given Harrach were such a prolific glass producer, that I haven't matched the shape yet to be honest.  It's a mould blown shape.  As I have said before, I don't mind what it is, but I'd like to know for sure.
Thanks so much again for all your help :)
m

azelismia:
you cannot go by enamelling to id a glass house. Enamelling was very often done by other companies. it is very possible to have the same exact decor from two houses due to consignment by purchasers for resale.

shape is a little more reliable but the same problem exists, glass was consigned by more than one house and molds were provided  by the consignor.

here is an example from one of the kralik museums. this is Kralik/Meyrs Neffe

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/G6RWJoo1FTzeT2Jk8QmJg1gUhNGuNUwtTddEOm_3hHc?feat=directlink

htis is Harrach

http://www.thegildedcurio.com/item-457.html


I asked Jitka about it and she was like, oh yeah, you can't do that. decoration was often applied elsewhere.. that made me want to cry and give up glass but it is what it is. Because I already knew that you couldn't absolutely rely on shape for attribution.

Anyway imho you already have the best clue on your piece. the mark. it's either Harrach or Loetz;  Loetz never used marks like that and Harrach did. Easy peasy.

I have shapes from Harrach that I have not seen duplicated. Just because they were prolific doesn't mean they reused every shape they had a ton.

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