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Victorian Mercury Glass Perfume Bottle
Frank:
Rachmann Brothers, Haida. You scent is very typical of their work but I could not find an exact match in the one catalogue c.1900-1910. I have been hunting for an example for a couple of years and have to assume they did not mark anything, yours is the first that looks close. The were possibly only decorators and metal fabricators but there is little info available. One account described them as owning a glassworks and a metalworks and they went to Haida from Germany c1890. Unpleasant ending during WW2.
The cap is very close in shape and they did use a huge variety of flowers and cutting. However, not one piece mentioned silvering. It is a pity that the pump is missing as that might have fiven a better match.
Of course there would be several Czech decorating companies doing this type of thing at that time. I cannot see it being internally silvered as most perfumes would not react well to that! It must be double layer?
Connie:
Frank - You are probably right. At first I think it was layered with the silvering sandwiched between 2 pieces of glass. But there is damage to the silvering (which I know can happen to layered pieces also) But when I peer into the top opening, I can see scratches in the bottom with light coming through. It looks like someone tried to clean it with a wire brush :(
The bad news
More bad news
The bottom
The glass outside glass is satin.
Frank:
It is not that bad news, if it is internally coated perhaps it was done later and needs removing :twisted:
But don't rush into doing that please! I am fascinated by what it could be. Will have a browse in some old books on the subject.
Connie:
I am in no hurry, Frank. I am going our of town again tomorrow and I have 7 shipments to pack tonight, finish washing clothes, and pack :lol:
I am curious if you find out anything about this piece.
Frank:
Hadjamach, British Glass p 286-7 describes a electrodeposition method that would be appropriate. As it can take up to 6 hours just to coat it would seem an expensive method of decoration for a scent spray!
Duthie, 1908, offers other possibilities: Silver leaf - impossible here, Chemical deposition - possible, silver-solution paint - possible, interestingly he does not refere to electrodeposition for silver but he does for gold.
The chemical deposition is achieved with a solution of silver nitrate and this was used for mirrors, replacing mercury from about 1840, the process is carried out at a temperaure of 70-80 degrees Fahrenheit. It is followed by a backing process - which could solve the contact with fluid issue. Backing is first a coating of shellac and then a backing made from pigments, turpentine and size. It should be easy to determine if this was the process use, were it not for the small opening, as the backing should be obvious from the inside.
If you have a friendly surgeon with a laparoscope you will be able to see inside, or a chemist to analyse a small scraping from inside :shock:
I would expect that you could restore the missing coating by use of some modern silver solutions from art shops, try on a jam jar first. It would be superficial, relatively harmless and give an aesthetically pleasing result. It will also remain obvious on close inspection as the silver colour will not match the original exactly.
Replacing the coating is the other option but that would probably cost moer than the piece is worth.
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