Topic: Advice needed please

[carolglass]

Hi all,  am between a rock and a hard place- did a bit of a trawl around the second hand shops and was offered two Sheringham clear candle sticks-both in good order but no Wedgwood mark to the base. A three ring and a seven ring for $200 NZ (for the two), don't know whether to bite the bullet and eat noodles for the next wee while or  gulp-Walk Away!! I already own about ten of various colours and up to 3 rings. :ooh: from Carol in sunny Napier NZ :sun: :sun:

[Anik R]

Hi Carol...  I don't know anything about these candlesticks, so $200 sounds like a fortune to me.  I suppose it all depends on what you feel about them.  Will you lose sleep and kick yourself in the pants if you don't get them?  Or will you lose sleep and kick yourself in the pants if you do?

It's a toughy.  :kissy:

[flying free]

that's about £120.00 for the two.  I would apportion £100.00 in my head to the 7 ring.  They were incredibly difficult to make from what I read, so I guess only a few makers would have been able to blow the 7 ring ones without losing them.  Check out the prices on the net for the big ones.  and then make your decision.  Personally I love the clear ones.  They are very elegant and I can imagine the 7 ring would look spectacular.  If there is absolutely no damage I would go for it personally.  I'm pretty sure there hasn't been any talk of someone 'faking' any of them never mind a 7 ring one and they were not always marked (although goodness knows why not, especially the 7 ring ones and 5 ring ones which are quite special).
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[chopin-liszt]

I think at one point in time, 9 ring ones went for about £1,200 - but that was a bit of a flash in the pan.

Is there not a story somewhere about some of them being made at King's Lynne? It's possible, I believe, to tell the two  (KL or WW) apart by how the base is constructed?

Sorry, I'm dredging through the bottom of the dustbin of my brain for this - my comments might be a bit contaminated by coffee grounds and fag ash.

However, this sounds like a bargain to me if you like them.

[Anik R]

 :pb: And I thought $200 for two was a fortune...    Carol, perhaps you should get them for your collection!  Noodles are lovely.

[chopin-liszt]

I reckon you should use an exponential scale to calculate value, depending on the number of rings.

They were made using an incalmo technique - bonding seperately constructed pieces of glass.
One ring bits are fairly common, not too complicated to make, and not overly delicate that they get easily broken.
!2 ring bits are exceptionally complicated to make, very delicate and easily broken. They were also (obviously) the most expensive when first made.

So an example of using an exponential scale would be to double the price for every ring, rather than add a certain amount per ring.

I'm not saying doubling would be correct - it might be tripling, or multiplying by 1.5.

But I reckon doubling isn't too far off.

But a 7 ring bit is not to be sneezed at  :smg: - (you may knock it over and break it!)

Porridge is lovely - and healthier than noodles. I lived on it for three weeks once. I did better than my friend who only had dog biscuits for a fortnight.

[Anik R]

Porridge?  Bleh...  Noodles are better because you can have spaghetti noodles, shell noodles, swirly noodles, and when you're feeling exceptionally daring, alphabet noodles... all while looking at your collection of candlesticks. 

[flying free]

so the consensus at the mo is to go for it  :hiclp:  and live on something inexpensive for a while 

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[chopin-liszt]

 :ooh:

I count pasta and noodles as being different - noodles are the Chinese eggy things to me - and much as though I love pasta, only the wholemeal stuff is good for you and good wholemeal pasta is hard to find - and it only works for shapes - the spaghetti is awful. Porridge is cheaper.
And I like porridge  - but only with salt - and it has to be solid - sticking to your bowl when you turn it upside-down!

But I'm sure looking at the (7-ring!!!!!!) candlestick will make anything taste good!

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They were made using an incalmo technique - bonding seperately constructed pieces of glass.

I don't think this is quite correct, more later. (quite soon, I expect)

12 ring bits are exceptionally complicated to make, very delicate and easily broken. They were also (obviously) the most expensive when first made.

Definitely!