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Author Topic: Apart from Webb's Iris did any other British maker do gold/amber iridescent..  (Read 3061 times)

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well it's arrived - it's stunning  :o
pics as below - shall do some more

5" tall, internal ribs to the stem, hand pulled and shaped rim in a deliberate shape, so this is not 5 pulls that all look the same, it is shaped like an iris I think.  It is 4" + wide at the rim and the foot is 3" in diameter.
I have also found a Walsh Walsh epergne (see link below) that appears to have (not good photos) this colour iridescence but only at the rims of the flutes, the body of the flutes are clear - apparently that is referenced as Charles Hajdamach British Glass 1800-1914, and Victorian Decorative Glass British Designs, 1850-1914 by Mervyn Gulliver, but I don't have the books.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5715128

So, I think Thomas Webb or Walsh Walsh so far... any thoughts very much appreciated.
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pics of top close up iridescence and pontil mark

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Walsh Walsh seems more likely. The foot body join is similar to my Sunbeam piece, which also has a snapped pontil mark

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Yes I feel sure it is Walsh Walsh.  An interesting discovery since I am unable to find any other examples of this colour iridescence on the net (or my meagre books) attributed or id'd as Walsh Walsh apart from the epergne.  
I have found a couple of other pieces that I am certain are the same maker though.  And if the info on them is correct then this piece should date to late in the period 1900-1910 - so therefore earlier than the Sunbeam?  I wasn't sure on the date of the Sunbeam as the pic (pag 125 CH 20th Century British Glass) caption says 'Sunbeam....from the 'Colour in Glass' brochure issued by the company in 1929', which doesn't clarify whether the range was new in 1929 or that it was just included in that brochure of that date and could have been issued/produced earlier.  

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A correction to my post above - I can feel the ribs on the outside as well as the inside when it gets near the top of the vase, but as it narrows to the bottom the exterior feels smooth.  I'm struggling to count the ribs accurately just in case that is any help.
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I've been doing as much reading and looking as I can and I have to say I am astounded at the complete lack of images and information available on the net on John Walsh Walsh.  On a previous thread I'm sure I read that Walsh Walsh had registered more designs than any other maker (I think I remembered that correctly) yet there are comparatively few definite id's and pictures on available  :-\  . One auction site even id'd something as 'definitely Walsh Walsh' but couldn't give a source - So how is that possible?  I am about to order Eric Reynolds book which hopefully will show some pictures of vases.  Can anyone confirm it will, or is it just drinking glasses and patterns please before I order it?  and are there any other books which show multiple images of Walsh Walsh pieces that I should be thinking of ordering (or indeed any sources on the net)? Grateful for any ideas.
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Reynolds book is worth getting,146 pages,the first 56 show various types,some colour some black and white with a history of the firm,the rest is given over to pattern book records which take a while,with a strong pair of glasses,to get through,an essential I'd say ;D ;D

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Thanks Keith - I've already ordered the book so hopefully it will be here tomorrow and shed some more light.
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vague similarities with this Walsh vase, although this is pearlised over citron coloured glass
but the 'knop' or applied ring of glass? is very similar to my vase.
http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/items/127569/an-early-20th-century-john-walsh-/
and a pair of table salts with orange iridescence from Stevens and Williams - although again I'm not sure this orange iridescence is really the same as that on my vase.  Same technique different colourway.
http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/items/127373/a-pair-of-late-19th-century-stevens-/

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Iridescence varies with the amount of metal salts sprayed on and the temperature of the glass. If they are all, Walsh you can be pretty sure the same metal salts were used.

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oh ok thanks  :)  I wonder then if the iridescent fan shaped vase on the link above was done with the iridescence sprayed on a yellow glass base? It's a lovely effect.  My vase is a clear base with the iridescence sprayed over it.
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