Topic: ID request for pink jug please

[flying free]

This is the link to your blue Alabaster Stevens and Williams bowl base, but I can't see any reference to the pink colour discussion 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,42333.msg235185.html#msg235185
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[Paul S.]

Dear Sue  -  thank you for assisting with my link.             I had in fact typed the following - hit a wrong key and lost the lot, and have had to re-type the entire post  -  the air here is very blue indeed.

The first link below is for my blue bowl that Nigel confirmed as S.&W. alabaster  -  the other is for a similar material that I believe was attributed to Stueben.      There is another post, subsequent to mine, that was also helpful, but which I now can't find.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,42333.msg235185.html#msg235185
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37292.msg204024.html#msg204024

My comments about Rose du Barry were taken from..........'The Crystal Years  -  A Tribute to the Skills and Artistry of STEVENS & WILLIAMS/ROYAL BRIERLEY CRYSTAL' by R. S. Williams-Thomas.    The author being an S.&W. family member who was involved substantially for over 30 with the company.       Page 18 in the book describes the decorative features of R du B..........."an opaque or ivory glass, shading from a pale primrose yellow at the base up to very pale rose and to a deeper rose on the top rim.      The surface was usually acid satined be was sometimes left in its bright polished state c 1888.         In the book plate XXXIII shows an example of R du B, from which you can see the similarity with Burmese type wares.

I can see the reference on page 108 in '20th Century British Glass', but unable to offer any explanation as to this apparent anomaly of the use of the name R du B. by both Williams-Thomas and Hajdamach.

signed  'perplexed of Surrey'

[flying free]

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stevens-williams-rosaline-and-alabaster-covered
this looks very pale compared to what I thought was their pink, so maybe that does tie the colour as well  although it could just be the photograph.
Here is a pic on Wayne's site that I thought was more the colour.
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73_251&products_id=4018

I am very confused by the Rose du Barry issue on description of the pink colour regarding the the alabaster range.  The Dudley Museums site has a piece (no picture) listed as a condiment pot but the description is of an Alabaster range piece and there is no mention of burmese at all. 
http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/getrecord/DMUSE_BH720/
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[bfg]

thank you all so much for your replies, such a lot to follow up on, I will do so tonight. Just regretting passing on my 'crystal years' book last year - typical!

Mel

[flying free]

I'm hoping to go up to Broadfield House tomorrow, providing no emergencies stop us - if so and if I see anyone to ask, I will ask the question about what Stevens and Williams pink was called in the Alabaster range.
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[Paul S.]

French mistresses have a lot to answer for, it seems .       Appears to have been used originally on C18 Sevres procelain - and possibly like many descriptions has been used because of its sense of romantic appeal etc.  -  sells well also.
quote.................."I will ask the question about what Stevens and Williams pink was called in the Alabaster range"...............they'll probably reach for Hajdamach
Have a good day.

[flying free]

I am sooo looking forward to it...I have been desperate to get there and to the V&A for years.  I'm taking a couple of pieces with me and hoping for answers although not expecting just in case there is no one available to show.  I can't wait to see the glass.
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[Lustrousstone]

You'll enjoy it. I want to go again.

[keith]

You'll also like all the books,take plenty of money,the Ruskin Centre is worth a visit along with the Red House Cone both just down the road

[flying free]

I've got precisely 2 1/2 hours there before we have to turn round and come back to pick up kids.  I want to see the collection as a priority - what else should I see?
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