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Author Topic: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?  (Read 2059 times)

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Re: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2021, 12:19:46 AM »
A link to a vase being sold on ebay.

It's in a similar ish vein, in that it looks quite chunky and modern and has a very thick rim so seems to be a thick heavy vase also.   Different colour to mine but does also have those very bright inclusions in it.
I'd describe it as having a small base foot with a three-wide ringed beehive shaped body narrowing a to a thick round rim (just in case for when the link disappears).
It seems to be made in a similar way as well, possibly cased as inner layer, then inclusions layer, then crackle layer then cased again.

Nice piece.  Also seems to be signed in script E Leveille with Paris signed below.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223133911286


I'm still not sure mine is by Leveille.  Mine isn't signed and I don't think the other blue one I originally linked to was either despite the description.
The inclusions do look very similar to the one I've linked to above, but something is making me hesitate.  It could also be that the blue colour of mine makes the inclusions look so much brighter and less 'sophisticated' than those which are in the brown/amber colourway maybe?  I don't know. 

The decor and method of making are the same I'm sure.  Mine also has a very large polished pontil mark. But I'm still not entirely happy.

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Re: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2021, 01:10:35 AM »
This one perhaps has some similarities in that it's a lighter colour.
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/215430-rousseau-and-leveille-vase-france?in=1179
However, again, the inclusions just look more 'painterly' to my eye as opposed to those in mine which seem to be more splotchy and not as sophisticated.  Difficult to explain but something doesn't feel right.


So, I'm coming back round to the vase I posted on a link on another Leveille thread, this one it is said is by Jean Noverdy, Verrier in Dijon.
It seems somehow to have more similarities with mine in terms of the colour of the inclusions, the type of inclusions and also the thick rounded rim:

It's in the Musee de France if I read correctly and was acquired in 1927.


http://www2.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr?ACTION=CHERCHER&FIELD_8=LOCA&VALUE_8=DIJON%20ET%20MUSEE%20DES%20BEAUX-ARTS&FIELD_3=AUTR&VALUE_3=NOVERDY%20JEAN&FIELD_1=DOMN&VALUE_1=VERRERIE

Difficult one.

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Re: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2021, 12:22:10 PM »
I think I'm being over-cautious because my vase has so many yellow bright inclusions (and I don't like that as much as the ones which have the maroon inclusions as well so appear to be more muted), and because it's blue and I've not yet come across another blue one in a matched or similar shape to the more amber ones.


The inclusions in mine can be seen in other Leveille pieces - I've linked a signed version below showing this
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8116303_266-vase

and in all other aspects  it fits with it being by Leveille.  I'll just keep looking for a blue version :)



 

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Re: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2021, 03:27:01 PM »
This is a blue version that I think is the same shape as one which sold together with the one I linked on Live Auctioneers at the first post in this thread.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254974609480

the link to the Live Auctioneers one here with a diamond engraved signature:
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8116303

That blue is a slightly different shape to mine but clearly the same maker.

Again not signed but Ivo pointed out in a different thread that many were not signed.

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Re: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2021, 03:47:57 PM »
hmm, more debate over whether Leveille made these vases here on Collectors Weekly.
The author shows a vase like Dirk's and also shows a pic of the vase which was sold on the Live Auctioneers, which said it had a diamond engraved signature:

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/226052-bohemian-craquelle-glass-vase?in=441-activity

Author and owner of that piece on CW says  that he now feels the vases are not by Leveille. Author comments that he thinks they were perhaps British.
My feelings are not.
I can't comment on the amberish ones which appear to be by the same maker  as mine, but mine is enormously heavy for size, internally decorated  something French makers were good at in the early 1900s and has a very large polished pontil mark.  My feeling at the moment is they are by a French maker.

This one, as I mentioned above, has very similar inclusions and also the crackle:
http://www2.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/joconde/0322/m013703_0007026_p.jpg

And for easy comparison, just a link to the signed one on ebay in the brown amber and with similar inclusions
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223133911286?hash=item33f3d148f6:g:r34AAOSwiIRbkYoI




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Re: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2021, 05:09:43 PM »
There is also more information and debate on another CW thread about a vase with an internal decor  that I've had queries over before - also one I've often seen 'attributed' to Ernest Leveille:

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/230012-ernest-baptiste-lveill-footed-bowl-o

In that instance the person querying the attributions says there are two in museums with original labels from a different maker:

'...Now, in the Kunstgewerbe Museum Berlin there is shown a vase of same décor and etching. The curator comments in 'Glas der Moderne 1880-1930', that a similar vase in the Museum Novy Bor carries the original label saying '... (Mellerio Freres) Verries d'Aubervilliers, the Gewerbemuseum Nuremberg has another piece with the same label. Therefrom one may savely conclude, that at least similar pieces to yours are made about 1890 by Mellerio Freres. The curator of the Kunstgewerbemuseum Berlin opposes an assignment to Rousseau or Leveille by a more detailed discussion.'

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Re: Can anyone confirm whether or not this vase is Leveille please?
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2022, 08:52:28 PM »
These two with similarities - brownish, the internal crackle and colour streaks - but very different shapes to the other brown ones.
Sold in 2009 as WMF  - just adding for info and shape but no reference source to the WMF claim:

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/woolley-and-wallis/catalogue-id-2777272/archivelot-7698353#lotDetails

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