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Author Topic: Could this be Czech or German or other?  (Read 1311 times)

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Could this be Czech or German or other?
« on: July 28, 2010, 01:19:40 PM »
Just received this vase. The colour and patterns reminded me of one of the Lubomir Blecha vases in Mark Hill's book, but I haven't been able to find anything resembling this shape, so I'm unsure - there are no further markings. It has enough wear to the base to make me think it's has a bit of age.

If it isn't Czech, I think Germany would be the next place to look for me. I've seen one vase described online as Zwiesel Fachschule that had a faint resemblance to it, but it didn't have the dark red inclusions that made me think of Blecha first.

25 cm high, 6,5 across the rim, 7.5 across the base.

Any help, speculation or pointing is welcome as usual,

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Re: Could this be Czech, by Blecha perhaps?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 05:01:47 PM »
Not Blecham possibly not Czech.

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Re: Could this be Czech, by Blecha perhaps?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 08:48:41 PM »
Thanks Jindrich, I'll search on...
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Re: Could this be Czech, by Blecha perhaps?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 09:12:39 PM »
While it is not Blecha (maybe a moderator will fix the title a bit to reflect this?), I showed this vase to two different specialized sellers of German glass at the Leerdam glasbeurs. Neither of them had ever seen it or anything similar (though they did like the quality).

My conclusion is that that doesn't mean that it isn't German - but it would have to be a rather unknown glashütte, or something only produced in a small series or a unique. Maybe a Fachschule piece?

I also haven't completely given up on Czech, though I haven't seen anything similar enough. Thinking of designers like Gabrhel, Jelinek, Suhajek - can these all be excluded as well?

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Re: Could this be Czech or German or other?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 04:38:28 PM »
Well,
I would omit the great old names like Blecha, Jelinek, Gabrhel or Suhajek. If the piece was designed by them than it would be documented somewhere.

It can be naturaly schoolwork, possibly from Zelezny Brod or Novy Bor, it can also come from Ajeto glass (http://www.ajetoglass.com/en/), they produces also very small collections. It must not be German or Czech, it could come from other countries, few days ago I have got link to glasswork in Ukraina and I was very shocked. China juist behind our doors.... :-)
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Re: Could this be Czech or German or other?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 07:56:57 PM »
I wasn't really counting on famous Czech designers at this stage, but better to make sure :)

Thanks for the links, both are interesting in their own way.

Since some of your suggestions hinge on age, I've checked the wear on the base again - if it was produced post, say, 1990, I'd expect less wear than it actually has.

The wear on the bottom of this particular piece of glass is enough to give it a few decades. It's not scratched on the surface, but on the bottom there are two fine rings of lots of tiny, tiny scratches that suggest it has a few decades behind it. My reasoning: the style suggests 60s-70s to me, and if it has enough wear, it is probably a period piece rather than a new retro styled one.

Too bad nobody recognizes it... Oh well, it's a high quality piece, and I'll treasure it regardless.

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Re: Could this be Czech or German or other?
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 07:09:07 AM »
I'll give this one a little bump, perhaps other people will care to have a look at it. I still would dearly like to know more... it's one of the best quality pieces I have where I have no clue as to where it came from.

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Re: Could this be Czech or German or other?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 08:48:04 PM »
So far I haven't managed to ID this vase, though I suspected Schott Zwiesel at some point, but I saw a very similar shape on ebay with a Czech Moravsky Sklarny Karolinka label (but in clear, not with inclusions or colours):

http://www.ebay.de/itm/exclusive-Designer-Glas-Vase-Handarbeit-Bohemia-Glas-wie-NEU-/271001290304?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item3f18ef8640

I don't know anything about this Czech factory, so I can't tell wether the shape similarity is a mere coincidence. Can anyone tell me more about this factory, their production or assess whether these vases could have come from the same place?

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