Topic: Do these qualify as chalcedony glass?

[johnphilip]

 

[chopin-liszt]

Clutha's bubbly.
I think these are both late 2Oth century, if not 21st.

I've been going demented trying to google a glassmaker, Ahmed Fouad, working in Alexandria - because he's done some very thin chalcedony-like work. I have a couple of bits, which I found in Germany a few years ago, but it looks like I'm going to have to get the camera out tomorrow.....

[flying free]

Ivo, is there any chance please of uploading a picture that blows up much larger?
I can't see the detail in the decor   
thanks
m

[johnphilip]

Anyone want to put money on it ? mine has been id  by several people at a lecture at Huntercombe Manor  where there were major collectors of Clutha glass . Ray Annenberg and i sold a massive piece that went to an exhibition in Milan with a friend of ours , he has since written a book containg new information on Clutha glass .
When i first joined the forum and mentioned my Hellen and Hana Walton bowls it was suggested they were not important or valuable , opinions seem to have changed now , so i do occasionally get things right also when i said Royo was Gordiola not Moser i was told i had it wrong . Ivos piece is in several books and sales catalogues . jp  , Ohhh i forgot to mention one small thing ... The Designer . Christopher Dresser
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[flying free]

http://www.fieldingsauctioneers.co.uk/resultsLotDetails.asp?lotsID=19067&menuItemOn=2&salesID=56&hasImage=1
this has a similarish feel to the decor and no bubbles
Ivo, please please can we have a closer picture?  I really would love to get a look at it as I've never seen a piece in real life 
thanks
m

[flying free]

  I thought this one also looked similar - it does have bubbles in it on enlarged pics.  http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/viewimage.html?oid=50108&i=395113
m

[Ivo]

I have seen the collection of Clutha held by the Hungarian museum of decorative arts and all their pieces are large and thick. I have also noticed that if you google Chalcedony glass one of the first hits you get is a standard colour in lampworking prefabs - so I do believe lightweight items are  made quite a lot. I will try and get some detail shots tomorrow in daylight of both these items. I think this discussion is fascinating.

[Ivo]

Three more pictures: the amber translucency, the detail on the outside which can be felt with a nail, and the underside...

[Ivo]

and three more of the small bottle - it would be fab if it were clutha but somehow it seems a bit smallish for that.

[johnphilip]

Well for a start see Christopher Dresser by Stuart Durant page 128 Clutha vase by Dresser based on a Roman vase seen by Dresser at the British Museum that now is the V&A
The small vase to the right i have a candlestick based on that . 
 
See also Exhibition catalogue New Century june 1999 Item G 002 with some small white streaks .
Michael Whiteway Christopher Dresser1834-1904 page 194 .
Dare i say ,,,, one of the Millers Guides as well .
Having seen your new pictures i wouldnt be surprised if you have two Dresser pieces . did they come from the same source ? although not a shape i have seen .