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Blue,white,green and touch of red scramble millefiori
flying free:
I thought this might be easy to find a match as it looks quite distinctive, but I've been unsuccessful to date. I have been looking rather randomly as I wouldn't even know which country I thought it might be from.
My pictures make it look a little blurred but in fact it's very crisp and the blue and white has a lovely effect of making them look as though they have been drawn on with an ink pen. It's pretty (well, in my eyes it is :) )
The canes are positioned in a scrambled 'layer' mid way up the weight with clear glass below and above in the dome. It is 2 1/2" wide by 1 5/8" tall and has a polished sort of concave base or very large pontil mark type base with a ring of wear around it, possibly a fine ground ring underneath the wear.
any thoughts much appreciated
Many thanks
m
Nicholas.:
Hello,
Your weight, apart from being attractive, really is most interesting and would appear to date from, or near to, the classic mid-nineteenth century era of paperweights.
You may well have noticed the white rose-canes with green sepals that this weight contains; the characteristics of these, together with other canes present, could well provide clues that would help with the attribution of this weight. The only problem there is that I suspect that some of the published attributions for rose-canes have been postulated without sufficient concrete evidence and so may well be misleading.
I'll get out some reference books and try to come up with some further information but perhaps someone who carries such information in their head can come back with some ideas straight away.
Nicholas
flying free:
Nicholas, thank you very much, your observations are interesting as my knowledge of paperweights is zero (vases are my addiction).
I have tried to look for various of the canes that are showing but so far I've not been able to match them. However...I did not notice the white rose-canes with green sepals - I was trying to match the blue and white ones and the big plain white ones as they seemed to me the most obvious. I will go and look up rose canes now and see what I can find.
Edited later to add: I am very embarrassed to admit that the 'plain white' canes I was looking for appear to be the 'white rose-canes with green sepals' you refer to - I just somehow didn't notice they all had green in them :-[
Thank you for taking the time to look at my weight, I appreciate it.
m
flying free:
Something I did notice that might help, is that there are two white and pink canes (are they called complex canes?), white little circles with a pink surround to each circle forming a cane that looks like a flower, that look as if they are sitting on the top of a side-ways on white striped cane. And on the other side there are two more, very tiny, that are squished into either side of a blue and white cane and sort of sat in the middle of one of those white-rose canes with green sepals. I don't know if this helps, and my apologies for not using better terminology but I really don't know what I am describing unfortunately.
m
flying free:
With the information from your reply I have done some more searching.
Would the type of base finish indicate this might be French or are there also other places that finished their weights with a concave polished area and a ground ring?
When I typed in rose cane what came up was Clichy although I presume from your answer there were other makers who used them.
I have found green and white rose canes now that are id'd as Clichy, however I don't think the ones in this weight are the same. Mine do not have a central 'stamen' or middle bit in them. They all seem to just be the white petals with a green exterior on the them. I have also read that Clichy used cobalt blue sparingly and there is a lot of it in this weight.
I have found a Clichy weight that has a couple of canes in which have similarities though. The canes that make up the outer circle of the millefiori are the same as those in two of my millefiori but the central bit is different. I'm presuming that lots of makers used similar ideas so I guess the fact that the central bit is not the same possibly also precludes them?
m
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