Topic: Blue,white,green and touch of red scramble millefiori

[pooleandpaperweights]

Suggest mailing the pics or a link to them to Paul Dunlop.  He very recently ID'd a weight of mine as Grenelle and sure he would look at yours as well.  Google Paul Dunlop Paperweights and you will find his website and contact link.

Ian

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Lot 21 in this auction - I think the green and white rose canes might be similar to those in my weight?
https://www.theglassgallery.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/021.jpg

https://www.theglassgallery.com/blog/82nd-glass-paperweight-auction-fall-2022/
It was listed as Grenelle or St Mande.

My weight:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47540.0;attach=102025;image
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47540.0;attach=102019;image

[tropdevin]

The weight looks to be from the same source, but I do not have a lot of confidence in attributions from Selman for the more unusual pieces!

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Thank Alan.  I saw that you had one very similar to mine and it was just listed as Antique French.

m

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That should have read 'Thank you Alan.'

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Hi Erhard
Yes I linked to that one on page 3 of this thread
here
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47540.msg308383.html#msg308383
I found it by accident and it started me off looking again for this weight.

If you go back to that post in this thread I also found two more on the Christie's online search that are possibly from the same maker.  I believe I have linked four with the same rose - I'm so curious to know where this was made
m

Just keeping track.  I think there might now be six - including one on Alan's site as linked above, and the one from the 2022 Selman sale.

They're lovely weights - very exuberant and colourful.

[tropdevin]

Not exactly news hot of the press... but in case you did not know, Paul Dunlop illustrated some examples of paperweights in this group in the 2011 PCA Bulletin, in the article 'Who am I? Part 2'.

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Aah I remember reading that earlier.  Thank you for the prompt. I still don't have a copy of that bulletin, but I suppose there may be  a few more as I don't know if they are different examples to those on this thread.
Not many have surfaced on the net in the last 10 years though.

m

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If this is Grenelle, the rose is I think what mine might look like unsquashed?
https://www.boisgirard-antonini.com/lot/grenelle-presse-papiers-a-motif-de-panier-millefiori-compose-de-trois-cercles-c-3/

Mine showing the pink inner circles in the rose?

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47540.0;attach=102019;image

The green tubular canes are also in mine.


Another here as well also listed as Grenelle:
https://www.boisgirard-antonini.com/lot/grenelle-presse-papiers-a-motif-de-deux-cercles-concentriques-lun-compose-de/

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Alan, re Grenelle - and Charles Bredgen, the only reference I came across was one from 1855 where a C Biedgen fils, Cristallerie de Grenelle was mentioned.  Is this a typo in the original document 'Annuaire General du Commerce et de l'industrie ...'?
See page 1967, last line of middle column and top line of column second from right:

https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Annuaire_g%C3%A9n%C3%A9ral_du_commerce_et_de_l_i/n2ZCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=presse+papiers+grenelle&pg=PA1967&printsec=frontcover


Difficult -  another link  shows it as 'Bredgem' with an M on the end.  How annoying.