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Author Topic: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl  (Read 2627 times)

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Offline Lustrousstone

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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2012, 01:43:07 PM »
and the colour...

Bernard says some Pompeian was irridised though

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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2012, 02:37:44 PM »
thanks m..........in fact Bernard has commented on a number of occasions in recent years, regarding Walsh.........most recently (last few days) in connection with my blue grapefruit dish, where he said..........."For some time I've known that Walsh regarded the Pompeian and Iridescent range patterns as interchangeable.   It may be that all coloured patterns were regarded as interchangeable, including Primrose and the one example of "Butterfly Blue".   
However, I'd be the first to admit that, when unmarked, 'Pompeian' and other bubbly bretheren, can be not only difficult but  - as Bernard says -very 'tricky' to attribute.  I assume no one else wants to put forward an alternative factory?

It's a tragedy that this pseudo Roman glass of which Bernard speaks, is being sold without a backstamp.

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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2012, 02:51:58 PM »
No I don't have a firm attribution to put forward, but the shape of that bowl (excluding the merese) is very similar to a Stevens and Williams much smaller bowl I had.  So much so that when I saw it, that was the first thing that sprang to mind.  However, I cannot tell you if Stevens and Williams did anything like this decor or with the iridescence.  I have the book 'The Crystal Years' but I've found it very limited - a little like having all the corners of the jigsaw puzzle but none of the middle pieces.
I have another bowl that is crackle with green lines in it that is the same or a similar shape to the merese and foot of this bowl but the bowl itself does not flare out and curve over.  |My particular piece is in the same decor as another barrel shaped one posted on the board whereby Steven commented that he thought it was a Stevens and Williams likelihood as a possible. 
I'm not at all sure they are Stevens and Williams, but I am wondering if there is a maker not yet explored who was making these shapes with various decors if you see what I mean?
I appreciate the iridescent finish is quite special on top of the bubbles and possibly that will link it to Walsh, but what about the colour?
Just trying to explore all the options and I don't feel entirely comfortable that this is Walsh definitely....but as always say, I am not the best person to comment having such limited experience of these pieces
- it's just gut instinct that something doesn't quite tie up.
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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2012, 03:24:31 PM »
would agree that  the Williams-Thomas book, whilst very interesting, is not comprehensive enough for a collector.         As you probably know, S & W did something called 'Caerleon' which was created especially to copy the surface effects of Roman glass (don't think I've seen any though) - but there is no mention of this material having bubbles  -  did it.             Did S & W make anything that might be confused with Walsh 'Pompeian'? 

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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2012, 03:41:44 PM »
I have no idea.  Stevens and Williams production is shrouded in mystery.  But no I don't believe Caerleon looks like your vase and yes I do think there are bubbles in it, or at least some pieces from what I can see under a magnifying glass in CH 20th Century British Glass page 110.
I've just had a look at all the Pompeiian pieces I can find and I can't see any that have that merese and foot and none that are that shape  :-\ Mind you that's only about 20 odd pieces so probably not that many.  I wonder if that design shape is available in any of their other ranges?
Arculus did do a bubbly range.  I wonder if yours compares to their blue one on page 98?
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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2012, 03:47:57 PM »
What about other colours not in Reynolds,I've seen a piece similar to the one in this thread in a 'purple-pinky' shade :o ;D,might see if it's still there next week!

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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2012, 03:55:36 PM »
I see you've been having a good chat while i've been out to lunch !!
Paul, you haven't seen any Caerleon Glass, how about this one  ;D
Sad tale, one of the first bits I bought from an auction, knocked it on the car door on the way out , and cracked it!!  :'(
i learnt not to do it again , and to be more careful !
Andy
"Born to lose, Live to win." Ian (Lemmy) Kilmister Motorhead (1945-????)

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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2012, 04:23:29 PM »
thanks Andy - sorry about the damage - I guess we all have a tale to tell about some disaster befalling a good piece, but at least it looks to be in one piece still :)      I know nothing of this Caerleon range  -  other than the pix in Hajdamach, however, the bubble structure looks different to 'Pompeian' - as do the colourways.            As for the Irish Bubbly Peat Glass from Arculus, that probably comes nearest to 'Pompeian' in terms of single homogenous colours, but the bubbles look too loud.         
To quote Bernard again (hope he doesn't mind)...... "Walsh Pompeian made for Hill Ouston and sold by them into the antiques trade is generally unmarked with a rough pontil mark, for obvious reasons.......................however, I don't know what this obvious reason was/is.

Keith, I have a purple bubbled bowl with folded rim  -  I'll post it later this evening - it might be similar to what you mention.

Regret I've nothing more to add that will be of use to Andy, so will leave to all of you to continue. :)




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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2012, 04:31:24 PM »
The rough pontil mark was to make it look antique...

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Re: Iridescent Green Bubbly or Bubble Glass Bowl
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2012, 05:11:57 PM »
Arculus was the only other one I was going to mention but I've now become confused about their pieces.
See other thread  http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,48249.msg272010.html#msg272010
And just to add, I suppose it is possible they may be from a maker that is not British  :)
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