Topic: monart light shade?

[chopin-liszt]

I could pretend it was a bowl...

[nigel benson]

I agree - not Monart.

However, what's this? -

..........and Monart never fire polished their rims.

Really? I'm wondering if a stray word got in there Gary?? 

Nigel

[Gary]

You got me there Nigel  , Monart rarely fire polished,is what I should have said, one shape that I know of and that is shape WK.
Gary

[flying free]

Do you mean Monart rarely fire polished their lampshade rims?  How did they finish them usually please?
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[Gary]

Very little has been written or published on Monart lighting, apart from I Turner's article in The Journal of The Glass Association and Frank's Ysart glass site and both of these need updating to some extent.
Monart lighting be it the type of- uplighter (image 1) downlighter (image 2) or lamps (image 3) are fairly  rare. So far to date I have not seen any lampshades fire polished, I have two Monart post war mushroom lamps, one pre war lamp base (shape P/13) and two pre war uplighters and none of these are fire polished. Much more research needs to be done on Monart lighting.
Image 2 is infact a Vasart piece which I used as an example of a downlighter.
I don't know the technical terms or the technique for finishing the rim, I assume it is shaped using a tool of some sort in the same way a vase would have been made but with a hole drilled on the top of the downlighter for the bulb holder to fit.
Gary

[Lustrousstone]

Those edges look rounded and fire polished to me 

[Gary]

I have been using the term fire polished wrongly  (every day is a school day) the edges are indeed rounded, I was under the impression fire polished meant the glass being polished or buffed smooth. Also shape WK should read ZK earlier in thread.
Gary

[flying free]

that's ok Gary    I was just beginning to doubt myself completely.  I did though think I  might be talking about the wrong rim - i.e. I was referring to the rim at the wide edge of the shade (which is firepolished) whereas you may have been referring to the cut edge of the drilled hole for the attachment to the electrics or hanging cord if you see what I mean.  I don't often see firepolished edges to those on the lampshades I've had (various art glass lampshades but not MOnart) - but I think I have occasionally had the odd one ground and then polished.
m

[chopin-liszt]

My brother has a fire-polished rim Vasart down-light shade. 
Same basic sort of shape as the one you posted, Gary (I don't think it bulges in quite the same way at the bottom, but that could just be the angle of the pic.) It's white with reddy-orange swirls. Far nicer lit than unlit.

[nigel benson]

Phew, I'm glad that's sorted itself out 

Fire polished = rounded edge.

So, usually shades are fire polished, rather than ground with, or without polishing.

For instance, the top of the base to a pre-war mushroom lamps is ground for the fitting, but the rim to the shade is fire polished (rounded). However, post war 'flange' lamps have both base and shade fire polished. This is the 'rule of thumb'. Just so that it's clear to non officionardos!

Cheers Nigel