Topic: Tudor copy or Walsh? - ID = Webb Corbett

[keith]

6 inches high,some wear,the pattern looks a little different to that in the book,the only mark,what there is,is also different,would be nice if it is a Farquharson original,I live in hope,help please

[Bernard C]

Keith — Your question is unanswerable.   When Walsh formally closed on October 1, 1951, a substantial number of Walsh employees, including a large section of their cutting team, was already working at Tudor Crystal (The Stourbridge Glass Company Ltd.).   Here they continued making popular Walsh designs as demand required, with the full knowledge and approval of Walsh directors and management.   So, an example of Clyne Farquharson's Leaf pattern with a Tudor mark is not a copy but a perfectly genuine original, made by the same craftsmen but in a different location.   Unmarked examples can be difficult to assign to one of the two manufacturing locations, but again are not copies or fakes.

Your piece is not, in my opinion, either Walsh or Tudor.   The short stem and the base star are not typical of these two.   If you browse through Benson & Hayhurst, you will see that stem only on examples of Webb and Richardson (eventually taken over by Webb).

I've not knowingly seen that mark before.   It seems to be an anonymous mark, just stating MADE IN ENGLAND, so may have been a special for one of the big trade buyers who didn't want the manufacturing glassworks identified.   Indeed the cut pattern design may not have been the property of a glassworks but of a factor, wholesaler, or a retailer.

Bernard C. 

[nigel benson]

Your piece is not, in my opinion, either Walsh or Tudor.

....and Bernard is quite right. However, it is attributable IMHO. I would suggest post war Webb Corbett, designed by Len Green.

Nigel

[keith]

Many thanks,Bernard,Nigel,still a good piece that will go well in the 'British' collection

[Bernard C]

Thanks, Nigel.   I should have listened to my OH, who, last night, said that it's Webb Corbett.   

Keith — On my trawl through Benson & Hayhurst I had missed #133, another Len Green Leaf design on an identical blank with the same base star, and #166–7, two more Len Green Leaf designs.

Bernard C. 

[keith]

Just looked up Len Green in 20th Century British Glass and there on page 282 is a tumbler with the exact same design,again thanks to both

[keith]

Just picked up my copy of 'Art Deco to Post Modernism' via my brother,came with a very polite thank you note from you know who