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Monart ! WMF ? or something else
paulbowen:
Thank you.
Gary:
Below is the link to previous thread about the bowl. IMHO the bowl is not Monart.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,50649.0.html
Gary
flying free:
thanks Gary :) I got distracted Paul and completely forgot about the thread ::)
m
paulbowen:
In my opinion, the *glass* itself is wrong for Monart. Ysart glass is very tinny, with a low lead content, and a dull ring tone when struck. This glass has a high lead content, and normal strike tone. Additionally, the pontil mark is all wrong for Monart, as it is completely ground out and concave. However, although the lead content is right for WMF, and the pontil could be right for WMF, the pontil would be atypical for WMF, as theirs are rarely actually ground extensively beyond level with the base (although this is not an iron fast rule); what's specifically strange about the pontils on these is that they are sort of *doubly* ground, with one lower convex recession inside another larger (wider) one, which WMF did not do - so I'm still not 100% certain that it is WMF. Additionally, the stripe pattern, the bubbles, and the base are all a little off for WMF (note that I say "a little"). I think this is either unusual WMF or something else, but not Monart, and lean towards the "something else" direction, leaving it "unknown" in my mind. Not certain though. Does anyone have any ideas on what else it could be besides WMF other than Monart? Czech perhaps? A pre-Czechoslovakia Bohemian maker? Wierd Leerdam? Something obscure from Fance? What about all the obscure stuff Webb & contemporaries made in the UK in the 20's & 30's? Thanks everyone for their input.
flying free:
the only thing I've been able to think of is possibly something like La Rochere in France.
They made some nice coloured glass, and possibly in a similar way, but to my eye it always looks slightly 'newer' than the 20s/30s glass in this vein. This bowl also does. Something about the bubbly way the bubbles are.
It also reminds me very slightly of the Czech? Cellophane glass somehow. The contrast of two colours or something, but not sure what.
It will probably turn out to be a very rare piece of WMF or something lol :)
m
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