Author Topic: Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ? ID prob Koudelka for Prachen (Read 4681 times)

vambo · « **on:** April 17, 2006, 12:23:35 PM »

Hi there,

My 1st post here. I have a piece of glass which is ringing bells with me but I can't put a name to it, just wondered if anybody here could help.

This is it:

It's about 9 inches tall and extremely heavy.

Any ideas ?

Thanks

Paul

Anne E.B. · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2006, 01:02:06 PM »

Hi Paul & welcome

I have the same vase in a different colourway (green with blue prunts). I bought it in Falmouth some months ago, which probably doesn't help in any way :? Its a quality piece of glass, and as you say, extremely heavy. Mine appears to have age related wear on the base. I initially thought may be Scandinavian, but I haven't been able to track it down, so hopefully someone might know

Nice to see another one :wink:

vambo · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2006, 01:47:34 PM »

Hi Anne, yes mine has age related wear to the base as well. It was bought in Kent about three months ago and no-one I've spoken to so far can put a name to it

Paul

RAY · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2006, 07:45:28 PM »

Hi Paul & Wecome,
Max don't you have similar which you ID'd from the literature as by Luciano Gaspari for Salviati ?

Ooops it's me, Pete, posting incognito from Lakeland.

Max · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2006, 08:04:46 PM »

Brilliant memory you have Ray! :shock: Edit: PETER! :lol:

Yes, I have something similar, but not the same.

I didn't identify this as possibly Luciano Gaspari, but Gareth/Taylog did from an auction site. He sent me a picture of the one he'd seen and it was identical to mine, only about 2" shorter.

I also gave photos of this vase to Sothebys, but they were hopeless and sent me a load of unrelated photocopies of Gaspari vases...they couldn't pin this down as Gaspari, but I don't think that's conclusive evidence that it isn't Gaspari to be honest.

My vase is tremendously heavy btw with a thick ground and polished base. Sorry I can't be more help Paul. vamboman?

paradisetrader · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2006, 08:17:50 PM »

Hmmm the prunts are different but there does look to be a family resemblance. What about comparing bases and rims >>>> ?

The shape of Pauls looks Riihimaki but thats just an observation - nothing more. I'm not aware that they ever did prunts.

I also have doubts about Sotheby's identification capabilities. Unless its obviously one of the premier league of "names" I don't think they try very hard.

Back again as me.

vambo · « **Reply #6 on:** April 23, 2006, 11:01:07 AM »

Hi folks, thanks for your efforts :wink:

As suggested: The base of my piece is completely flat and very well polished, the rim is very smooth and rounded.

My 'feeling' is that the main body was produced from a mould rather than being hand-blown so there must be more out there somewhere

paradisetrader · « **Reply #7 on:** April 23, 2006, 12:14:16 PM »

Flat polished bases suggest Murano or Czech
Prunts suggests Czech and less likely Murano but these are generalisations.

If there are no mold lines in evidence then they were most likely mold blown.

Anne, could you post a photo of yours ? The shade of green might give some clues.

Hopefully Marcus and Laura will comment. Chuggy, Ivo any thoughts ? I have changed the title to be more descriptive and hopefully attract their attention.

Ivo · « **Reply #8 on:** April 23, 2006, 02:04:23 PM »

Quote from: "paradisetrader"

Ivo any thoughts ?

I think Sweden but cannot prove anything

Anne E.B. · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2006, 03:04:57 PM »

Peter - as requested pic. of my green version.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/prunts005.jpg

It has rounded polished rim ¼" thick, and a 1" thick base.